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Oi-Oi-Oi

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Mar 16, 2009
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Well first time Mac use since March. Was all excited that I get to do a 10.5.x upgrade. I just went via SU.

It downloaded, rebooted once and installed perfectly and quickly. All came back up and all is sweet.

Literally 1 minute after the Mini finished updating, BOOM! - power outage!!!!

Neighbours, the whole street black ....

Very lucky the update finished JUST before the outage :D

I remember reading that you are not supposed to turn the thing off when it's updating (which makes sense).
 
Also don't turn it off when you are using it because... well... that would be just stupid! :D

I had a similar thing not too long ago. Turns out everytime the washing machine finished its cycle it tripped the electric. I thought it was something to do with the electric company and so bought a UPS and had a go at the electric company. :D
 
I had a similar thing not too long ago. Turns out everytime the washing machine finished its cycle it tripped the electric. I thought it was something to do with the electric company and so bought a UPS and had a go at the electric company. :D

Well that's double funny since our washing machine is on its way out and I thought that it had caused the outage, but once I saw the neighbours and street were dark as well I knew it couldn't have been us.

Incidentally, my first thought was UPS too :) We've been doing lots of installs at work using APC UPS's (3kVA units) and I thought a 1kVA would last the Mini quite some time ... but not the screen :)
 
yeah my iMac locked up as i was doing the update yesterday (i think i just got impatient to be honest) so i held down the power button.... It really didn't like that! haha
 
Hang on a sec ... you telling me that with the combo update you get additional features which you don't get by going through SU? Surely you jest my good man? :confused:


No I'm not saying that at all - features are all the same any way you go. But the way you get them differs in a way most average Mac users do not realize. I'll do my best to explain this as I know it, because it's all interesting stuff to me. Well if you're reading a Mac forum it may be of use to you / others.

Going to :apple: Software Update and pulling any updates there is very similar to running or pushing an incremental backup. There is very good chance the folder/files/data the software update needs is in many cases on your computer already so the updater comes along and adds snippets of info to the existing structure. Why do they do this? It helps reduce the download/roll out size. It still installs all of the needed and truly new patch data - but if it sees compatible existing structures already in place it will just add to it.

Many of the more serious tech's/engineer's claim this can and does allow for corrupt, older data to remain in place. When you download (larger/longer download of course) and run the Combo Update it simply rewrites everything with the fresh latest and greatest "new" data. It's for this reason that Combo Updater is a first choice when SU hangs or crashes or your power goes out etc and you're stuck in the dreaded SU install loop over and over again or other problems.

For the record mate I was just poking you a bit about using SU - by no means mean to be trolling. At the end of the day if you've been using good ol' Software Update and have never had any issues keep on using it. Here is to you or anybody who may simply learn something new from my poorly written and novel length explanation. :D
 
Hang on a sec ... you telling me that with the combo update you get additional features which you don't get by going through SU? Surely you jest my good man? :confused:

No no no... He's just yanking your chain.
The combo updates don't add anything that Software Update doesn't. They just enable you to go straight from say 10.5.0 to 10.5.7 without downloading 7 seperate updates.
There are many users here that insist that the combo updates "work better" but it is merely a placebo effect.

I only use the combo updates after a complete OS reinstall, and have never had issues with Software Update's delta updates.
 
There are many users here that insist that the combo updates "work better" but it is merely a placebo effect.

Darth I'm surprised by how wrong such a comment is - coming from you. It certainly can and does have a place and is more than placebo. Especially when using it as a force update tool if/when SU did not work for whatever number of reasons. Don't get me wrong here gang I'm not trying to champion a cause for Combo Updates only - if SU is your thing great but know there are other options.
 
Literally 1 minute after the Mini finished updating, BOOM! - power outage!!!!

Neighbours, the whole street black ....

Very lucky the update finished JUST before the outage :D

I've got a UPS on practically every piece of equipment in my house. Macs, PS3, LCD TV, network equipment, etc... They are lifesavers, so be sure to pick one up as soon as you have a chance.

But as the saying goes, it is better to be lucky than good any day. :D
 
Power outages are a phenomenon beyond the average mac users control, I plan on investing in a backup power supply for my old beast once I pay off some bills. Spot power outages occur regularly here on the east coast I figure it's due to the age of the damn power grid.
 
Ah, the joy of using MacBooks with their built-in UPS... ;)

That reminds me of when there was a power outage in a studio I was working at... all the screens went dead except my PowerBook 17". A holler rang across the room and everybody went into recess mode.

I quietly shut my machine down and joined in the fray.

;)
 
Seriously there should be a separate thread for pointless stuff like this, it makes it harder to find RELEVANT information.
 
For the record mate I was just poking you a bit about using SU - by no means mean to be trolling. At the end of the day if you've been using good ol' Software Update and have never had any issues keep on using it. Here is to you or anybody who may simply learn something new from my poorly written and novel length explanation. :D

Cool understand thanks mate. Makes sense as well.

OH AND lamerica80, Chillax man, just a bit of info going around. Let's have a hug ;)
 
Cool understand thanks mate. Makes sense as well.

OH AND lamerica80, Chillax man, just a bit of info going around. Let's have a hug ;)

No im actually serious! Sometimes i feel i have to browse trhough tons of threads filled with nothing but people wanting to make small talk. Illl have that hug though! :)
 
No im actually serious! Sometimes i feel i have to browse trhough tons of threads filled with nothing but people wanting to make small talk. Illl have that hug though! :)

There ya go ..... All good now :)

Sometime people just like to connect and share stories. Anyway, your second post contributed to the small talk ;)

I'll leave it at that :cool:
 
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