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Prince134

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OK I am planning to purchase the latest ipad pro 10.5 to replace my 9.7 pro.

Today I went to apple store to check the difference in between. I have seen a major issue. With my necked eyes, I see the safari browser's black text content became brown when I tried to scroll the page or pinch on it making zoom in or zoom out. I tested both 10.5 and 12.9 Pro has the same problem. Whilst my 9.7 pro is free from that issue. This is unacceptable to me no matter how well the AD presents.

Can anyone test it and report your result here? Please!
 
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That is the promotion display at work that you are seeing. The black color kind of fades a bit when zooming or scrolling fast. The reason why you don’t have that on the 9.7 is that without promotion you can’t really see much of anything while scrolling or zooming fast — it just fuzzes out and then becomes clear again when you are done.

Basically, you won’t get that in a display with a low refresh rate. The newer displays have a higher refresh rate so you are going to see that. It’s not a defect — it’s your eyes playing tricks on you. Black while moving fast fades a little and becomes a little bit brown and grey. It’s the same effect that you see in a video taken from a rocket while blasting off — the light starts to bend from the speed and everything blurs just a bit.
 
Are you happy with your iPad pro with this kind of effect?

It is a non-issue to me. I love my 10.5 and Promotion. I do not even see this "effect" anymore until you mentioned it. It was discussed long ago when the 10.5 with ProMotion came out. I do not think it changed many minds about their purchase.

If it really bothers you that bad, you will need to look else where for a new tablet. The 10.5 blows the 9.7 away in performance.
 
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That is the promotion display at work that you are seeing. The black color kind of fades a bit when zooming or scrolling fast. The reason why you don’t have that on the 9.7 is that without promotion you can’t really see much of anything while scrolling or zooming fast — it just fuzzes out and then becomes clear again when you are done.

Basically, you won’t get that in a display with a low refresh rate. The newer displays have a higher refresh rate so you are going to see that. It’s not a defect — it’s your eyes playing tricks on you. Black while moving fast fades a little and becomes a little bit brown and grey. It’s the same effect that you see in a video taken from a rocket while blasting off — the light starts to bend from the speed and everything blurs just a bit.

Thanks for the reply.

So you have seen the effect which means it does exist but not only my eyes that saw it. However, your explanation sounds totally opposites with that refresh rate improvement should bring to your eyes. That remind me 4k display with 60hz vs 30hz, which one is better. Are you saying 4k 30hz display looks sharper and less blurr? Then why you need a 120hz TV capability?

Does APPLE want us to have better user experience or not? I don't know I just saw it yesterday. I am still pondering. It's been couple months but I haven't seen any one talk about it. This is weird. I think many of us have iPads across 2 generations. Please tell me how you think about this? Why these new iPad with better spec, latest A10X cpu, and we have so called Pro motion display that looks blurry in motion?
 
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Thanks for the reply.

So you have seen the effect which means it does exist but not only my eyes that saw it. However, your explanation sounds totally opposites with that refresh rate improvement should bring to your eyes. That remind me 4k display with 60hz vs 30hz, which one is better. Are you saying 4k 30hz display looks sharper and less blurr? Then why you need a 120hz TV capability?

Does APPLE want us to have better user experience or not? I don't know I just saw it yesterday. I am still pondering. It's been couple months but I haven't seen any one talk about it. This is weird. I think many of us have iPads across 2 generations. Please tell me how you think about this? Why these new iPad with better spec, latest A10X cpu, and we have so called Pro motion display that looks blurry in motion?

To me it is not really blurry, it is more of a color tint change. I remember the day my 10.5 arrived and the first thing I noticed is how buttery smoooooth it operated compared to my 9.7 or Air 2. The color/tent change does not bother me in the least.

Best of luck
 
This is where science is your friend... **basic science and logic... ;)

So what you are seeing may look brown (could actually be close depending on the background color from the text or object you’re looking at... or because of the color temperature of the iPad,) it appears a different color of shape as our eyes can’t see less than a frame of an image unless slow-motion is involved, meaning we can see movement and make out a shape but our vision will be obscured/unable to see the subject in a single frozen frame (it will be blurry and seem like a different color.) Even if someone took a screen grab of this “effect” it would look brown or grey or even green because... science, it will look like whatever other color is taking its place as it moves on the screen (white background=grey offwhite=brownish, if there are other colors on screen it’ll look even more different.)
The same effect happens if you move your hand in front of your face really fast, you think it looks dark brown, orange, or red (or a color close to whatever backdrop your hand is in while moving it.) but it is still actually your skin tone. Our eyes just can’t freeze frame on such fast moving objects/images.



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