10 things to love and 10 to hate about Apple

[roland.g]

In two interesting summations of the Apple experience, they guys over at PC World have put together 2 top-10 lists of things they love and things they hate about Apple. An interesting link I found through O'Grady's Powerpage

10 things to love

10 things to hate

and yes, the secrecy and lack of midrange tower or other affordable desktop do make the list.

 

[mkrishnan]

In case it wasn't clear, this appears to be the article that was involved in this tussle. EDIT: It seems fairly innocuous to me. I have a hard time imagining that this was pulled because Apple sat on execs at the publisher....

 

[roland.g]

Yes, I agree. The article is written by Mac users "venting" things that bother many of us. And both the love and hate points of the articles are things many MacRumors readers and forum members will agree with, at least in part. So unless it was re-written and tamed down, I doubt anybody put pressure on it or quit b/c of it.

 

[synth3tik]

very interesting. Although I felt that both list were missing the depth that they needed.

 

[clevin]

depth aside, i agree with all of them except $50 saved from AV softwares, there are just too many free AV apps for windows now, all are reputable and solid.

And despite all the great design and other things from apple, SJ and Apple PR's arrogance is reaching a level that Im afraid is turning many ppl off now. (Im one of them, I still consider OSX a better system despite the some software/hardware compatibility problem, but Apple as a company, its "personality" is absolutely going down the tube, let me fine the words..... apple is like a oppressed vengeful little kid)

 

[Lixivial]

depth aside, i agree with all of them except $50 saved from AV softwares, there are just too many free AV apps for windows now, all are reputable and solid.

I definitely agree with you here. There's a common misconception that antivirus a) bogs down the computer to incoherent levels and b) it's an expensive cartel fee that one must pay yearly. The free alternatives such as AVG and Avira usually have fairly low resource utilization and are free with steady daily updates to definitions. They also tend to rate quite highly in virus/malware tests.

These lists are fairly solid (and safe), though I take exception with a few of the entries: markedly the "doesn't play well with others" entry.

 

[KurtangleTN]

Pretty good read. I'd agree.

and lol @ the iPod thing. I forgot about that, even as a Windows user at the time I laughed at that.

Btw- Avs rule

Edit- And I agree, the PR pisses off so many people I know. Most don't know a thing, but when they are insulted and everything with just about every Mac-PC ad they start to get a little angry. I was kinda one of them.

You'd be surprised how many people say "Macs suck" the instant I say anything about Macs, and they know NOTHING about them, and it's all due to the Mac vs PC ads, and a lot of these people really fit the Mac user profile too, and it's a shame.

 

[4JNA]

depth aside, i agree with all of them except $50 saved from AV softwares...

the average pc users doesn't know anything about antivirus/spyware other that what was loaded by the manufacturer at the time of sale. they see the 'expired' warning 90 days later, and type in the credit card number, so i actually agree with the $50 saved point. more actually if they don't renew, get infected, and then need to pay me to fix it.

lots of little nit-picky points with both the love and hate list, but the one that really stood out was the mini not being upgradeable at all. i have a core 2 duo @ 2ghz in my mini, and i'll upgrade it further when the cpu prices drop again. yet they list 'replacing the motherboard' in the pc. they believe this to be an average pc user task i guess... silly pcworld....

 

[clevin]

but the one that really stood out was the mini not being upgradeable at all. i have a core 2 duo @ 2ghz in my mini, and i'll upgrade it further when the cpu prices drop again. yet they list 'replacing the motherboard' in the pc. they believe this to be an average pc user task i guess... silly pcworld....

its a dilemma, mini's compact design is its attraction, at the same time, its really much harder than any desktop pcs as far as upgrade is concerned, for a normal user, they might have 50% chance to update graphic card, memory of a pc desktop by themselves, but they have only 10% chance of successfully doing so with mini, everything inside mini is overlapped and can not be IDed easily, and shell is very difficult to open

 

[roland.g]

lots of little nit-picky points with both the love and hate list, but the one that really stood out was the mini not being upgradeable at all. i have a core 2 duo @ 2ghz in my mini, and i'll upgrade it further when the cpu prices drop again. yet they list 'replacing the motherboard' in the pc. they believe this to be an average pc user task i guess... silly pcworld....

its a dilemma, mini's compact design is its attraction, at the same time, its really much harder than any desktop pcs as far as upgrade is concerned, for a normal user, they might have 50% chance to update graphic card, memory of a pc desktop by themselves, but they have only 10% chance of successfully doing so with mini, everything inside mini is overlapped and can not be IDed easily, and shell is very difficult to open

I bought a refurb 1.66 Mini in Oct to replace my aging Sawtooth 450 and upgraded the RAM myself to 2GB. But I agree that this is beyond the regular consumer, who IMHO doesn't need/want to upgrade anything themselves anyway, regardless of iMac/Mini or PC tower, other than possibly RAM, which they still will pay someone to do. The issue that is absolutely beaten to death is the lack of option between the Mini and Mac Pro. I absolutely love the ACD's and want a 23" or possibly 30". I don't want a Mini longterm b/c of the notebook drive and I don't want to upgrade CPUs myself. And the Mac Pro is large and overkill for my needs. But I don't really want an iMac. White not so sexy. The iMac and Mini are great for reducing clutter, the Mac Pro not so much. I love Apple for space saving simple elegant designs and can't imagine why they don't have a larger beefier Mini with a 3.5" drive and more CPU. That can push a 30" as well as a 23". Small yet powerful. Conroe 2.4 or 2.6. Or even 2.16/2.33 iMac Meroms.

Oops, I've gone a little off topic.

The secrecy/privacy thing is really getting annoying now too.

Btw- Avs rule

Go Avs.

 

[MisterMe]

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10 things to love

10 things to hate

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In my not so humble opinion, both lists are lame. The "love" list completely misses why a grown-up loves his/her Mac. Simply put, the Mac allows us to do our work with no fuss or muss. For the most part, those who hate the Mac think that it is too expensive. Also, many people like the fuss and muss. Everything else is B.S.

 

[jaw04005]

I definitely agree with you here. There's a common misconception that antivirus a) bogs down the computer to incoherent levels and b) it's an expensive cartel fee that one must pay yearly.

Unfortunately, computer superstores and Dell don't mention this to customers in the hopes of tacking on yet another accessory. So, they end buying Norton or McAfee. Norton Antivirus, Windows Vista, trialware and 512MB of ram can't be a good experience.

All the Windows PCs in my famly run AVG.