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Rhema

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I know that there aren't even 100 gig ipods yet, but..theoretically speaking..

How big would the iPhone have to be to have a 100gigs in it? I'm assuming since the iPhone has the capacity of a nano, if it was to have 100 gigs, it'd probably have to be atleast twice as thick, if not more right?
 
I know that there aren't even 100 gig ipods yet, but..theoretically speaking..

How big would the iPhone have to be to have a 100gigs in it? I'm assuming since the iPhone has the capacity of a nano, if it was to have 100 gigs, it'd probably have to be atleast twice as thick, if not more right?

iPod uses a Hard Drive. Nanos use flash memory. They won't put a Hard Drive in the iPhone. Uses to much power, not a good idea for the phone. Right now flash memory tops out about 16GB. And those just came out in December.
 
Just out of curiosity - what is the phone with the largest capacity out there? From any manufacturer. Are there any with anything like 100GB capacity?
 
iPod uses a Hard Drive. Nanos use flash memory. They won't put a Hard Drive in the iPhone. Uses to much power, not a good idea for the phone. Right now flash memory tops out about 16GB. And those just came out in December.

It actually tops out at 128gb, but it will be quite some time until that finds its way to the marketplace, let alone into your ipod. More feasable in the near future would be 16 and 32gb SSDs which are already for sale, just for quite a bit more than the 1.8in HDDs apple is using right now.

However, those SSDs are 2.5in drives, and while there are 1.8in 16gb SSD drives, it just isn't really economically going to happen for quite some time, unless Apple can use its buying power and get some amazing deals.
 
If you wanted a brick in your pocket, why not? Apple wanted the iPhone to be thin. If they went and stuck a 100 GB HD in there, you wouldn't have any battery life. Then they would have to add a second battery.

I could see it in a few years, or in the iPod, but not in any iPhone right now.
 
I wonder if some enterprising 3rd party company will offer flash memory upgrades for the iPhone. If they can figure out a way to clone the data to the new drive there is no reason why it wouldn't be possible.
 
iPhone represents the future of iPod. Today's full-sized iPods use hard disks for practical reason, but I believe flash memory represents the future of ultra portable devices. Although Apple will continue to innovate iPods (iPod, iPod nano, iPod shuffle) for many years to come, I think its main focus will be on iPhone. In other words, iPhone will resist using "legacy" technologies such as hard disk.

By next year, it's very realistic to expect both iPod nano and iPhone to reach 16 GB. 16 GB is still no match for 100 GB, let alone 30 GB. And as princealfie pointed out, it will probably take 4 to 5 years for flash memory capacity larger than 64 GB to become affordable. The market for full-sized iPod will exist for many more years.
 
iPhone represents the future of iPod. Today's full-sized iPods use hard disks for practical reason, but I believe flash memory represents the future of ultra portable devices. Although Apple will continue to innovate iPods (iPod, iPod nano, iPod shuffle) for many years to come, I think its main focus will be on iPhone. In other words, iPhone will resist using "legacy" technologies such as hard disk.

By next year, it's very realistic to expect both iPod nano and iPhone to reach 16 GB. 16 GB is still no match for 100 GB, let alone 30 GB. And as princealfie pointed out, it will probably take 4 to 5 years for flash memory capacity larger than 64 GB to become affordable. The market for full-sized iPod will exist for many more years.

Yeah and also there will need to overcome the max theoretical limit for flash drive at 32 GB... the file formatting may need to change. (at least for SD and MS 32 GB is considered the max in theory).
 
iPhone represents the future of iPod. Today's full-sized iPods use hard disks for practical reason, but I believe flash memory represents the future of ultra portable devices. Although Apple will continue to innovate iPods (iPod, iPod nano, iPod shuffle) for many years to come, I think its main focus will be on iPhone. In other words, iPhone will resist using "legacy" technologies such as hard disk.

By next year, it's very realistic to expect both iPod nano and iPhone to reach 16 GB. 16 GB is still no match for 100 GB, let alone 30 GB. And as princealfie pointed out, it will probably take 4 to 5 years for flash memory capacity larger than 64 GB to become affordable. The market for full-sized iPod will exist for many more years.

Well put, and yet it seems whether it is the unreleased iPhone or other Apple products, there are always, and to my dismay, far too many, people here who are never satisfied with what is available, they want features and capacities that are not always realistic, and they want it for it seems next to nothing. I'm not saying this is the case necessarily with the OP, but I get a bit tired of some of the narrowmindedness that says that this item or that needs this feature and without it it's worthless, etc. etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum, because the reality is that Apple has to make products that can appeal to most people and in doing so have to leave certain things out, either because they are unrealistic, unfeasible, or too limiting as to the marketing thereof, or because they simply didn't think of it. Not everything they do is perfect.

Back in the OS 9 days and prior it seemed that the OS and Apps were built more for the user who wanted to manipulate their machine just the way they wanted to. Now it seems things are packaged more for the general, less saavy user to make things easier and sometimes it leaves those of us who truly like certain things the way we want it, out in the cold. But that's ok.
And someone else will most likely create an App that does what you need or whatever.

I was recently in an Apple store having a genius look at my Mac and he couldn't understand why I would put my Hard Drive icon in my dock or my Home or Applications folders (all to the right of the line, left of the trash). So I can right click or click and hold and launch or get to something without the finder which leaves me a window to close. Goes back to the day of OS 9 and Apple menu items and folders that lead to folders without opening the finder and getting anywhere you need to on your machine.
 
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put this in the iphone! sure it will quadruple the price but i bet they'd still sell some.
 
Yeah, if apple really wanted to they could probably release a 100gb iPhone, but theres really no demand for it ATM. Plus it would be insanly expensive, 128gb flash drives cost a fortune right now. For apple to figure out (or pay someone to figure out) how to jam 100gb of flash storage into a small enough form factor to fit inside the iPhone, plus the cost of manufacturing said 100gb drive, it would jack the prices into the clouds. Im not even sure the current lithography process would be small enough to fit that many GB into a small enough space, 45nm probably wouldnt cut it, so they might have to develope a 32nm or even 22nm process. they would be doing a HUGE favor to the cpu industry, but it would cost way to much money. Or they could just make a bigger iPhone that would take 2.5in or 1.8in drives and be done with it, cheaply and easily using the current flash tech.
 
yeah but couldn't they have just doubled the memory and put two 8gb flash things in there. how much bigger would that have made it. While i don't expect a large capacity on soon, i did expect a decent capacity one, especially if it plays video 4-8gigs are skimp.
 
I bought a Nokia N93 and its a pile of stinking brown stuff that occasionally bothers to make some attempt at performing as advertised.

I've had it 3 months now, 21 to go.. which is fine, coz we wont get the iPhone in South Africa any time this year, so I'm only gonna have to subsidise two phones for 9 months..

All I want a phone that works when I switch it on, connects reliably to the blue tooth car kit in my car, and my mac, and doesnt randomly flatten its battery for fun 2 hours after being fully charged.. etc etc

Oh yeah - iPhone by then will (I hope) have HSDPA, or at least 3G. Which'll be nice. Tho not sure how they plan on video calls.
 
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