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12.3 RC stable?
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everyone has different experiences (having different hardware, software, etc) so there's no one answer to this. one person may be completely happy, another completely miserable.
but we're out of beta, so it's a 'finished' release; update if you're ready.
but we're out of beta, so it's a 'finished' release; update if you're ready.
no matter what version an OS is on... there will always be people having a good experience, and people having issues. there's no one moment where it all comes together, for everyone. just the reality of software...
Of course but one can do some basic homework of peoples experiences especially on same hardware instead of leaving it entirely to chance
which people? there are millions of macusers. this forum represents a fraction of a fraction of them.
still... yes, one can do research on their specific mac, the apps one depends on, etc. that is, at least, a useful process before running an update. but there are no absolutes.
respectfully... of what concern is it to you that I ask people? Some people say everything's great no bugs ever no issues (if so, why are there minor software updates without new features?) and others say everything's crap, but there is a decent segment of people that tell it like it is and can discern good vs bad performance and good vs bad battery life - of importance on a portable machine.
People on MR are generally more discerning than average Joe at the apple store.
I take everything with a grain of salt, operating in absolutes aint me you got me pinned for someone else but in any case- some input is always preferred to none.
we're good; didn't you see this?
"yes, one can do research on their specific mac, the apps one depends on, etc. that is, at least, a useful process before running an update"
Hi all,
...and just to illustrate the minor glitches that can arise: I've been running 12.3 Betas 1-5 and now 12.3 RC on three different Macs, an Intel i9 MBP, an M1 MBP, and an M1 Max MBP. I'm also running exactly the same software on all three machines, including some of my own codes. I also disconnect any computer from all of its peripherals before I upgrade its OS, so all of these installations where performed on the three machines without any external devices attached at the time of upgrade.
While I did experience very minor glitches on some of the new features of 12.3, such as Universal Control, on Betas 1-4, I didn't experience any troubles installing the 12.3 Betas 1 through 4. For Beta 5, however, both the Intel i9 MBP and the M1 Max MBP "froze" during the installations (I waited for over 2 hours each before halting these installs) while the M1 MBP had no trouble upgrading to Beta 5. I had to try another installation strategy and ended up with kernel panics on the Intel i9 and M1 Max MBPs. But eventually was successful installing Beta 5 on these machines. And all three machines had no problems upgrading to 12.3 RC from 12.3 Beta 5, however.
In summary, one never knows beforehand whether one will run into trouble with any particular upgrade. While it is true that the 12.3 Beta 5 upgrades for each of the three machines differed in detail, including the upgrades for the Apple Silicon M1 differed from that for the M1 Max, and these three machines had already upgraded through 4 Betas each without issue, and since I run precisely the same software on all three machines, I wasn't really expecting to have the installation troubles with 12.3 Beta 5 that I experienced on two of the three machines.
Solouki
...and just to illustrate the minor glitches that can arise: I've been running 12.3 Betas 1-5 and now 12.3 RC on three different Macs, an Intel i9 MBP, an M1 MBP, and an M1 Max MBP. I'm also running exactly the same software on all three machines, including some of my own codes. I also disconnect any computer from all of its peripherals before I upgrade its OS, so all of these installations where performed on the three machines without any external devices attached at the time of upgrade.
While I did experience very minor glitches on some of the new features of 12.3, such as Universal Control, on Betas 1-4, I didn't experience any troubles installing the 12.3 Betas 1 through 4. For Beta 5, however, both the Intel i9 MBP and the M1 Max MBP "froze" during the installations (I waited for over 2 hours each before halting these installs) while the M1 MBP had no trouble upgrading to Beta 5. I had to try another installation strategy and ended up with kernel panics on the Intel i9 and M1 Max MBPs. But eventually was successful installing Beta 5 on these machines. And all three machines had no problems upgrading to 12.3 RC from 12.3 Beta 5, however.
In summary, one never knows beforehand whether one will run into trouble with any particular upgrade. While it is true that the 12.3 Beta 5 upgrades for each of the three machines differed in detail, including the upgrades for the Apple Silicon M1 differed from that for the M1 Max, and these three machines had already upgraded through 4 Betas each without issue, and since I run precisely the same software on all three machines, I wasn't really expecting to have the installation troubles with 12.3 Beta 5 that I experienced on two of the three machines.
Solouki
Just upgraded but 12.3RC has fixed a few issues I had with Beta. Safari tab groups don't jump around like they were on just one of my macs. And UC seems to be much more responsive, my 2 main macs seem to link up almost immediately instead of waiting seconds>minutes sometime before the secondary mac is accessible. Other than that, the last beta was stable for me in everything else that I do.
…I read your four posts “not answering“ and explaining why a no-answer is your answer…
I was hoping your answer! For me, perhaps knowing if bluetooth and sleep-wake behavior is stable in your system would be interesting (your experience).
We know there’re particular issues in every mac, but they should be extremely rare and marginal… and that should be the intention, at least, when a RC appears!
Just telling your experience, confronted to last official upgrade, could be a contribution.
Any kernel panic? How about “well known“ hiccups with hubs, Bluetooth or card plug? Do you detect ”famous” memory leaks?
Those of us who only install official OS versions get lost about fixes made in every beta, and when a RC appears, OP question is interesting.
Personal experiences are welcomed in a forum, I believe.
as are personal observations.
i share my thoughts here, often, i discuss (or bring up) issues; i offer help when i can. and all of these things are valid, and... allowed.
bluetooth has been fine on both my macs thru the beta cycle. i had a couple of kernel panics on my 2016 macbook on an earlier beta, but it seems ok now. my imac would wake periodically on some of the earlier betas; i discussed it on the forum, and reported it in feedback assistant.
allow me to be me, and you can be you, and we can both express our thoughts, and discuss our experiences, freely on the forum.
So you have had random wakes and KP on earlier betas but find peoples curiosity for release candidate observations/experiences
/observations from experience since they don’t have a lab of 100 macs on the build (experience = observation = synonymous here, useless semantical games) before upgrading unfounded?
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The “feedback” assistant can know but community “feedback” is relatively verboten and scolded if provided by anyone
personal experiences are valuable, and if a lot of people report something here, it's important. but i haven't said anything in this thread that contradicts that. am not saying people's experiences don't matter, am saying (again) that there's no one answer to the question. so, can we move on?
I take it back. Safari is still flaky, jumps around within a tab group, and often "backs up" within a website to a previous page. For some reason this is only happening on my 16" i9 MBP. And UC still sometimes takes a few seconds to connect to my 2nd MBP but does seem to generally be a little quicker than the beta.