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12" MacBook Pro?
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I thought they were generally replaced by the 13.3" MacBooks. I really can't see a 12" MBP being used in a professional setting.
I have a 12" PB and it's awesome, but 1024x768 is really the new 800x600.
I have a 12" PB and it's awesome, but 1024x768 is really the new 800x600.
in regard to it being a pro notebook... was the PB really a pro notebook? i think it was more geared toward consumers who wanted something a little nicer than the iBook but didn't want to spend as much on the 15" or 17" models - true pro notebooks.
as a consumer - not a pro - i see it as a consumer model. and i don't think the MB has replaced it, because it is not as small and doesn't have the aluminum enclosure. it would be like a smaller MB with some of the features of the MBP.
as a consumer - not a pro - i see it as a consumer model. and i don't think the MB has replaced it, because it is not as small and doesn't have the aluminum enclosure. it would be like a smaller MB with some of the features of the MBP.
The aluminum enclosure is highly overrated. The moment you bang it against something, it warps. The MB enclosure is more durable for daily use.
pianoman said:
An aluminum enclosure doesn't make a pro notebook. You're seeing the MB as a consumer model is your perception from the marketing and the slight difference in specs. The only things the MB lacks from the MBP are a dedicated GPU and an expresscard slot. Any multimedia "pro" is usually looking at larger screens than 12 or 13" anyway and actually NEEDS a dedicated GPU for motion graphics or GPU reliant apps such as Aperture or Motion (99% of people who actually NEED Aperture are using larger screens). The only "pros" I know who would need a small notebook are very few photographers who just need to store photos, check them, and maybe tweak a bit in Photoshop, the MB is perfect for this as the processing power is equal to that of the MBP.
I'm not even getting into the fact that a dedicated GPU equivalent to that of the MBP in a smaller enclosure is going to make an already hot notebook hotter than a sphincter in hell.
i do not see the aluminum enclosure as a requisite for a pro model, but apple obviously does (iBook, iMac, eMac all not alum enclosure; PowerBook, PowerMac all alum enclosure). I don't think anyone disagrees with me here.
What I am saying is - as a consumer - I would like to see a smaller, aluminum notebook with a dedicated graphics card with a decent amount of VRAM, option for a glossy screen, and all the other bells and whistles that are available on the MBPs and not on the MBs, such as a backlit keyboard.
i don't like the enclosure on the MB and i don't like the non-backlit keyboard, and i don't like that there's not a dedicated graphics card.
i'm not saying that i will get a chance to see these things but i know i would buy one if it was available.
What I am saying is - as a consumer - I would like to see a smaller, aluminum notebook with a dedicated graphics card with a decent amount of VRAM, option for a glossy screen, and all the other bells and whistles that are available on the MBPs and not on the MBs, such as a backlit keyboard.
i don't like the enclosure on the MB and i don't like the non-backlit keyboard, and i don't like that there's not a dedicated graphics card.
i'm not saying that i will get a chance to see these things but i know i would buy one if it was available.
pianoman said:
The point was to get out of the very deep hole the G4 put us in. We're getting easily 3-4 times the performance in smaller enclosures with Intel, but it can only go so far dude. Graphics processors such as the ATI X#### series are pretty hot chips, that's not Intel's fault...that's the nature of the beast. You're confusing GPU heat with CPU heat.
That and Apple has said that the "family is now complete" as stated above, there is no need for a 12" MBP. The iBook and 12" Powerbook were way to close for far too long, Apple learned it's lesson.
MovieCutter said:
Nonsense. Even if apple were planning on releasing a smaller MBP they would still say that "the family is now complete" because they want people to buy now, not hold out. So that statement really means nothing.
The 12" ibook and PB were close, yes, but AFAIK, they were 2 of Apple's best selling products.