Hello,
Long time lurker, first time poster... After my 2012 MBP bit the dust last year I've been using workarounds on a 2016 MBP as my main work machine. I've been using Adobe CS6 and am happy with it for print production work - I really don't need anything newer or fancier. However... you probably know where this is heading... I can't keep using CS6 and upgrading my MacOS. After the 2016 MBP proved buggy in the hardware dept I upgraded to a 2017 MBP and Mojave.
This has coincided with a shift in my source of income - where it used to be 100% graphic design (specifically Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator), much of my work is shifting to photo/video creation and editing. The 2017 MBP is great, I run FCPX and Lightroom and just bought an Affinity photo editing app to try out. I'm also excited to see how their desktop publishing app is going to turn out.
However.
I still do some print production work, and let's face it, the print production industry moves at a glacial pace. All I really need is something that will reliably produce a printable 4-color PDF, and I want something to read all my legacy files, and I have issues with Adobe's subscription model (but let's not go there).
The result being, I would like to set up a machine with Snow Leopard/Lion/Mountain Lion specifically to run the Adobe CS6 suite and getting a cheese grater cMP tower (2009 to 2012) is the option I'm currently looking at. I don't mind some tinkering and am learning to change out computer parts (I've done simple stuff like RAM and hard drives - if I can find a good youtube video I'm OK with following instructions) but I have some questions:
- are there any non-upgradeable parts for the cMPs? i.e., what are going to be the limiting factors - what should I purchase straight out of the gate as I won't be able to upgrade or will be difficult to upgrade later on? (edit: Or, are there any parts that are impossible to replace if they fail? I don't plan on upgrading to run newer OS, I'm willing to accept some performance limitations, although I'm thinking they'll be minimal with all the RAM and HDD available in a desktop machine).
- It sounds like a lot of the driver issues happen when people upgrade to run the newer OS... is this true or will I have to deal with weird driver issues regardless?
- 2009 vs 2012? I've read some of the lid vs lidless debate... to be honest I am just starting to understand it... sounds like the 2009s are a great deal under the right circumstances but I'm not sure if they'll be OK for my purpose.
- Budget is around $1000, I don't need to be super cheap, as I said above I'd rather purchase the right "limiting factors" and upgrade ram/HDs later.
- peripherals to run with it are all USB or firewire (no thunderbolt)
Any thing else I should be aware of? Thanks a bunch, this forum is a lifesaver
cweese
Long time lurker, first time poster... After my 2012 MBP bit the dust last year I've been using workarounds on a 2016 MBP as my main work machine. I've been using Adobe CS6 and am happy with it for print production work - I really don't need anything newer or fancier. However... you probably know where this is heading... I can't keep using CS6 and upgrading my MacOS. After the 2016 MBP proved buggy in the hardware dept I upgraded to a 2017 MBP and Mojave.
This has coincided with a shift in my source of income - where it used to be 100% graphic design (specifically Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator), much of my work is shifting to photo/video creation and editing. The 2017 MBP is great, I run FCPX and Lightroom and just bought an Affinity photo editing app to try out. I'm also excited to see how their desktop publishing app is going to turn out.
However.
I still do some print production work, and let's face it, the print production industry moves at a glacial pace. All I really need is something that will reliably produce a printable 4-color PDF, and I want something to read all my legacy files, and I have issues with Adobe's subscription model (but let's not go there).
The result being, I would like to set up a machine with Snow Leopard/Lion/Mountain Lion specifically to run the Adobe CS6 suite and getting a cheese grater cMP tower (2009 to 2012) is the option I'm currently looking at. I don't mind some tinkering and am learning to change out computer parts (I've done simple stuff like RAM and hard drives - if I can find a good youtube video I'm OK with following instructions) but I have some questions:
- are there any non-upgradeable parts for the cMPs? i.e., what are going to be the limiting factors - what should I purchase straight out of the gate as I won't be able to upgrade or will be difficult to upgrade later on? (edit: Or, are there any parts that are impossible to replace if they fail? I don't plan on upgrading to run newer OS, I'm willing to accept some performance limitations, although I'm thinking they'll be minimal with all the RAM and HDD available in a desktop machine).
- It sounds like a lot of the driver issues happen when people upgrade to run the newer OS... is this true or will I have to deal with weird driver issues regardless?
- 2009 vs 2012? I've read some of the lid vs lidless debate... to be honest I am just starting to understand it... sounds like the 2009s are a great deal under the right circumstances but I'm not sure if they'll be OK for my purpose.
- Budget is around $1000, I don't need to be super cheap, as I said above I'd rather purchase the right "limiting factors" and upgrade ram/HDs later.
- peripherals to run with it are all USB or firewire (no thunderbolt)
Any thing else I should be aware of? Thanks a bunch, this forum is a lifesaver
cweese
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