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libertyranger10

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Has anyone seen any import, export, and 1:1 preview tests with any of the new Mac Pros with Lightroom Classic CC? Or do we have any owners yet able to run some tests and compare them to the new 16 MacBook Pro or iMac Pro? Thanks!
 
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MBP16,1 reports in this thread and several other configs also reported:
 

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IMHO Lightroom is always the problem with slowness, never the hardware config. Lightroom is a slow cumbersome beast that needs a hearty re-develop.

There is a version of Lightroom running on an Apple Quantum computer, and the user has their head in their hand, saying "why is the rainbow spinning, again?"
 
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Mac Pro 2019 isn't for photography for sure. Too expansive for that.

Sure it is, don't assume all photographers are weekend warrior wedding photographers, some of us can easily budget $20K for new computing hardware.
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IMHO Lightroom is always the problem with slowness, never the hardware config. Lightroom is a slow cumbersome beast that needs a hearty re-develop.

There is a version of Lightroom running on an Apple Quantum computer, and the user has their head in their hand, saying "why is the rainbow spinning, again?"

I would like Lightroom to be better too but it does respond very well to higher clock speeds among other things. I think the sweet spot would be the 12 core and 16 if you also do regular video edits but still trend towards stills.
 
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Sure it is, don't assume all photographers are weekend warrior wedding photographers, some of us can easily budget $20K for new computing hardware.

Seriously, iMac 27 with i9-9900K is way faster than Mac Pro 2019. Ryzen 9 3950X with 12 cores is the fastest for LR CC exporting. Why do you need Mac Pro 2019 with poor hardware from $6000? You gotta pay several thousand dollars for 12 or 16 cores if you get Mac Pro.
 

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He tests with Lightroom an Photoshop. Based on his findings in terms of CPU-Speeds a i9 5Ghz would be better suited for this kind of work.
I ordered a MP7,1 anyway for pro photography because I value stability and modularity above speed.

His file save speed test in Photoshop are questionable because he didn’t specify if the option to disable file compression on save in Photoshop (using CPU resources) was activated.
 
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Seriously, iMac 27 with i9-9900K is way faster than Mac Pro 2019. Ryzen 9 3950X with 12 cores is the fastest for LR CC exporting. Why do you need Mac Pro 2019 with poor hardware from $6000? You gotta pay several thousand dollars for 12 or 16 cores if you get Mac Pro.

Well I am not exactly in a hurry in using my iMac Pro at the moment which is nearly twice as fast on export than my brand new 16" MacBook Pro. And I do more than stills, direct and produce some video so the MacPro will likely not be lost on me. But the youtube comparison above is pretty eye opening from a value standpoint.

So I'll see how this all looks in 6 months to a year and decide to either make a move or not.
 
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Has anyone seen any import, export, and 1:1 preview tests with any of the new Mac Pros with Lightroom Classic CC? Or do we have any owners yet able to run some tests and compare them to the new 16 MacBook Pro or iMac Pro? Thanks!

Thanks for posting. I'm also curious for results on LR and PS. I've targeted the 12-core, 48 or 96GB RAM, 2TB SSD to replace the 2013 MP for photography. I appreciate the comments how other Apple products can/could fulfill (if not exceed the 2013 MP), but at this time, not interested as focus is on longterm/future use and expandability. I cannot wait to see that nano monitor in action.
 

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IMHO Lightroom is always the problem with slowness, never the hardware config. Lightroom is a slow cumbersome beast that needs a hearty re-develop.

Just shows you have not used a recent version of Lightroom. It uses all the cores and the GPU. So faster hardware makes for a faster LR experience.
 

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Just shows you have not used a recent version of Lightroom. It uses all the cores and the GPU. So faster hardware makes for a faster LR experience.

Runs slower on a Mac than Windows. Maybe that's what he means. Snappy interfaces and silky zooming is better on Windows thanks to constant driver updates.
 

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Runs slower on a Mac than Windows. Maybe that's what he means. Snappy interfaces and silky zooming is better on Windows thanks to constant driver updates.

LR CC relies more on CPU clock speed. Mac computers have poor cooling solutions while PC can have better cooling solutions including Noctua air cooler or Corsair water cooler.
 

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LR CC relies more on CPU clock speed. Mac computers have poor cooling solutions while PC can have better cooling solutions including Noctua air cooler or Corsair water cooler.

Yeah, that too.

Apple's engineers don't look like they understand thermals in most of their range. It all started with the cracking plastics in the G4 Cube, a few boiling hot PowerBook G4s, the ridiculous green liquid they used for cooling the Power Mac G5, the trashcan, the throttling Touch Bar MacBook Pros and now this new tower that has no exhaust fan in the top rear corner. If you can fill up those 8 PCIE slots the heat needs to be quickly pulled out of the system from the top of the case where the CPU is.
 

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Just shows you have not used a recent version of Lightroom. It uses all the cores and the GPU. So faster hardware makes for a faster LR experience.

I have both software but C1P is indeed better. I wouldn't use LR CC for professional works anyway.
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Yeah, that too.

Apple's engineers don't look like they understand thermals in most of their range. It all started with the cracking plastics in the G4 Cube, a few boiling hot PowerBook G4s, the ridiculous green liquid they used for cooling the Power Mac G5, the trashcan, the throttling Touch Bar MacBook Pros and now this new tower that has no exhaust fan in the top rear corner. If you can fill up those 8 PCIE slots the heat needs to be quickly pulled out of the system from the top of the case where the CPU is.

Mac Pro 2013 is the best example lolol. It has one tiny fan to cool 1 CPU and 2 GPU! Seriously? I used it before and it shut down by itself several times due to extreme thermal throttling.

Well, Mac Pro 2019 is totally fine. You better see Max's video. Base on the test, it ables to main the temperature at 70 degrees Celcius at full loads on both CPU and GPU while fans were running at the lowest RPM. At least, there won't be a problem with Apple parts cause they were defined to pull air in and out. With third part parts like Radeon VII, case fans are quite powerful enough to blow to the end at low RPM but you can just increase RPM if you want better cooling.
 
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I have both software but C1P is indeed better. I wouldn't use LR CC for professional works anyway.
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Mac Pro 2013 is the best example lolol. It has one tiny fan to cool 1 CPU and 2 GPU! Seriously? I used it before and it shut down by itself several times due to extreme thermal throttling.

Well, Mac Pro 2019 is totally fine. You better see Max's video. Base on the test, it ables to main the temperature at 70 degrees Celcius at full loads on both CPU and GPU while fans were running at the lowest RPM. At least, there won't be a problem with Apple parts cause they were defined to pull air in and out. With third part parts like Radeon VII, case fans are quite powerful enough to blow to the end at low RPM but you can just increase RPM if you want better cooling.
The line above about the Mac Pro 2013 "best example" is either a fabrication, or you had a broken 2013 Mac Pro. I have run heavy GPU and computational tasks for DAYS without issue many times over the course of 6+ years. I've never once seen any type of "shut down". These are high end Xeon parts with ECC memory etc. Maybe you were using a 2013 era Mac mini or you are in a room without A/C in a desert climate? Of course, my sample size is one 6 core unit with D700s and the 1TB disk, maybe other parts/configurations had issues, but "used it before" sounds like a non-personal story regurgitated from unverifiable sources.
 
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