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whitby

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Mine arrived around 10 days after ordering which was 3 weeks before predicted delivery by Apple!

1. This machine is replacing an aging 2015 27" 5K i5 iMac which we use as a general purpose machine in the kitchen/breakfast room for music etc. We have a 2020 27" i9 5K fully loaded iMac and a 2017 27" i7 (fully loaded at the time) for our more demanding and professional requirements. We also have a couple of i9 16" MBPros and an M1 MBA.
2. We ordered a yellow (goes with the walls and general decor in the area) machine with 16 GB memory and a 1 TB SSD. The keyboard is the one without numeric keypad but with Touch ID. We also ordered a matching trackpad and mouse.

Pros:
1. The machine was very well packed (in fact the packaging weighed more than the machine, see my cons!!) and was a pleasure to unpack.
2. Matching peripherals is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing because they are aesthetically nice, curse because replacements are not generally available (I am hard on mice and need to replace them more often than most people!) and they are likely to be expensive when they do make them separately available since they are color matched.
3. Easy start up and configuration. Apple have gone out of their way to make this a pleasure, with the default OS highlight colors and desktop matching the machine exterior.
4. The yellow is surprisingly pleasant and not at all jarring. It makes for a pleasant and less sombre experience. It fits in our decor.
5. That white screen surround is much less distracting than I thought it would be and matches the general demeanor of the machine.
6. Light and easy to maneuver.
7. Bright and color accurate display with high enough resolution for the size.
8. Snappy response time, with excellent disk read and write times.
9. Smaller footprint than the 27" machine it replaces.
10. Application load times excellent.
11. Runs all applications seamlessly whether or not they need Rosetta.
12. More convenient headphone port.

Cons:
1. The packaging is very substantial and weighs as much as the machine or more. Seems that they could save a little on shipping if they reduced the weight, but then would it arrive intact?
2. Screen is poor when viewing off centre so it suffers a little when several people are trying to watch it.
3. Sound is surprisingly quiet at full volume. Quality is adequate but it seems quiet and 'woolly' sounding. We use the machine with a pair of Homepods (not the Mini Homepods which are nowhere near as good in our opinion) which are excellent.
4. The keyboard has random disconnects so we are not sure whether it is faulty or not. It always comes back and works, so not sure what the issue maybe.
5. The keyboard does not have the quality feel of the full numeric gray (now discontinued) or white keyboards we use with our other iMacs. It is noisy and feels loose. Not quite the precision we were expecting (the space bar is especially noisy).
6. I keep hitting the Touch ID button when going for the delete key which puts the machine back to the login screen. My poor typing skills, I know, but I do it on all the Apple machines where the Touch ID and power is placed close to the delete key.
7. Apple software is as buggy as ever. Music is a disaster as I store all my music on the machine and each time I download it to a machine, Music cannot down load some number of tracks and I have to recover them manually from my backup. Then Music gets into a mess when it tries to upload to iCloud.
8. It tends to run out of steam with large Adobe Lightroom files and, when editing my drone movie footage, it tends to be a lot slower when rendering than my 2020 iMac (not surprising since the 2020 iMac is a powerhouse) in FCPX. I think someone likened this machine to a turbo charged engine in a car. Lots of immediate grunt but runs out of steam earlier than expected. This is to be expected given that I am comparing it to a 10 core machine with a decent graphics card. The fact that it competes at all is amazing.
9. I still need some USB A ports and thus need to have a dongle or dock to use older USB A peripherals.
10. This is a silly one but I cannot run my x64/x86 Windows VM on this machine. I have some programs that need a Windows environment and this machine cannot run them and is unlikely to in the future (emulating a Windows environment is much easier when the machine code is identical and all you to do is provide the APIs for Windows - OK not trivial but an order of magnitude simpler than trying to make it work on an ARM machine, and yes I know Windows ARM exists with built in x86 environments, but now you are into layers upon layers of emulation).
11. You get used to 27" screens so 24" screens seem small, but you get used to it.

Summary:

An excellent machine for its intended purpose and it bodes well for the future. Buy this machine if you want an easy to use machine for most regular uses e.g. email, shopping, editing documents without complex formatting and content, light photo editing and organizing, music playback etc. Do not expect it to replace the current top end 27" iMacs. But it is a fast light package and well worth the money.
 
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glenthompson

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Apr 27, 2011
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A lot of similar comments to my experience. I found the display a better size for me due to the wider aspect ratio. I prefer width to height. As to the usb-a ports, the machine isn’t thick enough to handle them. Similar to why the headphone port is on the side. I just use a usb-c adapter with 3 usb-a ports.

Never had any issue with the keyboard. I use the full size one because I like the numeric pad. Running Windows is not an issue as I’m 99.99% Windows free. I have a cheap Windows laptop I use for the rare occasion I need to run a Windows app. Cheaper solution than paying for Parallels updates.
 

jaybar

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Dec 11, 2008
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Mine arrived around 10 days after ordering which was 3 weeks before predicted delivery by Apple!

1. This machine is replacing an aging 2015 27" 5K i5 iMac which we use as a general purpose machine in the kitchen/breakfast room for music etc. We have a 2020 27" i9 5K fully loaded iMac and a 2017 27" i7 (fully loaded at the time) for our more demanding and professional requirements. We also have a couple of i9 16" MBPros and and M1 MBA.
2. We ordered a yellow (goes with the walls and general decor in the area) machine with 16 GB memory and a 1 TB SSD. The keyboard is the one without numeric keypad but with Touch ID. We also ordered a matching trackpad and mouse.

Pros:
1. The machine was very well packed (in fact the packaging weighed more than the machine, see my cons!!) and was a pleasure to unpack.
2. Matching peripherals is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing because they are aesthetically nice, curse because replacements are not generally available (I am hard on mice and need to replace them more often than most people!) and they are likely to be expensive when they do make them separately available since they are color matched.
3. Easy start up and configuration. Apple have gone out of their way to make this a pleasure, with the default OS highlight colors and desktop matching the machine exterior.
4. The yellow is surprisingly pleasant and not at all jarring. It makes for a pleasant and less sombre experience. It fits in our decor.
5. That white screen surround is much less distracting than I thought it would be and matches the general demeanor of the machine.
6. Light and easy to maneuver.
7. Bright and color accurate display with high enough resolution for the size.
8. Snappy response time, with excellent disk read and write times.
9. Smaller footprint than the 27" machine it replaces.
10. Application load times excellent.
11. Runs all applications seamlessly whether or not they need Rosetta.
12. More convenient headphone port.

Cons:
1. The packaging is very substantial and weighs as much as the machine or more. Seems that they could save a little on shipping if they reduced the weight, but then would it arrive intact?
2. Screen is poor when viewing off centre so it suffers a little when several people are trying to watch it.
3. Sound is surprisingly quiet at full volume. Quality is adequate but it seems quiet and 'woolly' sounding. We use the machine with a pair of Homepods (not the Mini Homepods which are nowhere near as good in our opinion) which are excellent.
4. The keyboard has random disconnects so we are not sure whether it is faulty or not. It always comes back and works, so not sure what the issue maybe.
5. The keyboard does not have the quality feel of the full numeric gray (now discontinued) or white keyboards we use with our other iMacs. It is noisy and feels loose. Not quite the precision we were expecting (the space bar is especially noisy).
6. I keep hitting the Touch ID button when going for the delete key which puts the machine back to the login screen. My poor typing skills, I know, but I do it on all the Apple machines where the Touch ID and power is placed close to the delete key.
7. Apple software is as buggy as ever. Music is a disaster as I store all my music on the machine and each time I download it to a machine, Music cannot down load some number of tracks and I have to recover them manually from my backup. Then Music gets into a mess when it tries to upload to iCloud.
8. It tends to run out of steam with large Adobe Lightroom files and, when editing my drone movie footage, it tends to be a lot slower when rendering than my 2020 iMac (not surprising since the 2020 iMac is a powerhouse) in FCPX. I think someone likened this machine to a turbo charged engine in a car. Lots of immediate grunt but runs out of steam earlier than expected. This is to be expected given that I am comparing it to a 10 core machine with a decent graphics card. The fact that it competes at all is amazing.
9. I still need some USB A ports and thus need to have a dongle or dock to use older USB A peripherals.
10. This is a silly one but I cannot run my x64/x86 Windows VM on this machine. I have some programs that need a Windows environment and this machine cannot run them and is unlikely to in the future (emulating a Windows environment is much easier when the machine code is identical and all you to do is provide the APIs for Windows - OK not trivial but an order of magnitude simpler than trying to make it work on an ARM machine, and yes I know Windows ARM exists with built in x86 environments, but now you are into layers upon layers of emulation).
11. You get used to 27" screens so 24" screens seem small, but you get used to it.

Summary:

An excellent machine for its intended purpose and it bodes well for the future. Buy this machine if you want an easy to use machine for most regular uses e.g. email, shopping, editing documents without complex formatting and content, light photo editing and organizing, music playback etc. Do not expect it to replace the current top end 27" iMacs. But it is a fast light package and well worth the money.
The fact that it would not run Windows VM’s was known early on. Keyboard and mouse disconnects have been an issue. Why start a new thread? There’s a LONG share my new iMac 24 thread, where users have covered many of these issues. Many of the posts in that thread are more superficial and geared to the visual, but there is a lot there about your issues too. Otherwise fine job.
 

400

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Sort of glad I didn't go for the 27 now. This size is just right but cannot help wonder what specs in a few years time.

Headphone socket is bugging the hell out of me at the location. Seems a forgetful "oh yeah, better chuck that on".

Audio wise playing back iTunes purchased and it is as tinny as hell, none too good, have to wade in with the equaliser with some heavy settings.

Still updating my Photos library before I get to grips with the rest.
 

ZebedeeG

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Headphone socket is bugging the hell out of me at the location. Seems a forgetful "oh yeah, better chuck that on".
Funny thing is I find the new headphone jack position an improvement, as I regularly switch between listening to music on the speakers or my headphones. I find the side much easier than fumbling around behind my machine.
 

400

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Sep 12, 2015
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Wales
Funny thing is I find the new headphone jack position an improvement, as I regularly switch between listening to music on the speakers or my headphones. I find the side much easier than fumbling around behind my machine.
Horses for courses I suppose. I plug my head phones in the amp, the whole HiFi stack is next to the computer. But my main gripe is the chance to knocking it and damaging it. I have a 90 deg Neutrik but will need to change the gauge of cable and that means opening up my looms.

Give something to do I suppose.
 

cosmichobo

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May 4, 2006
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Ah ok - so - the base model I'm looking at for my parents will need a USB-C to USB-A adapter for older peripherals... (back up hdd etc)
 

ignatius345

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Aug 20, 2015
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Sound is surprisingly quiet at full volume. Quality is adequate but it seems quiet and 'woolly' sounding. We use the machine with a pair of Homepods (not the Mini Homepods which are nowhere near as good in our opinion) which are excellent.
I agree. I was coming from a 27" iMac which had very decent and loud speakers. I guess there's only so much they can do with a Mac this thin. I don't really care to clutter up my smallish desk with external speakers. These are sufficient for watching videos and the like, but not great.
 

ignatius345

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As to the usb-a ports, the machine isn’t thick enough to handle them. Similar to why the headphone port is on the side. I just use a usb-c adapter with 3 usb-a ports.
True, but I question why a desktop Mac needs to be so thin in the first place. It's nice to be able to move it around easily, sure, but it's not like I'm hauling around in my bag all day. I could stomach another ½" of thickness and a few pounds of weight, if it got me some better speakers and more flexible ports.
 
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dimme

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10. This is a silly one but I cannot run my x64/x86 Windows VM on this machine. I have some programs that need a Windows environment and this machine cannot run them and is unlikely to in the future (emulating a Windows environment is much easier when the machine code is identical and all you to do is provide the APIs for Windows - OK not trivial but an order of magnitude simpler than trying to make it work on an ARM machine, and yes I know Windows ARM exists with built in x86 environments, but now you are into layers upon layers of emulation).
I run a headless NUC with windows running on it with a VNC server. I access it from my various Macs in the house, I not a bid fan of VM's. As of now all my Mac are intel but awaiting my new M1 iMac.
 

whitby

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I run a headless NUC with windows running on it with a VNC server. I access it from my various Macs in the house, I not a bid fan of VM's. As of now all my Mac are intel but awaiting my new M1 iMac.
I do something similar, I have two Windows servers that I run via MS RDS from MacOS and it works well enough, but it was a lot more convenient to use VMs which I find run quite well and are much less of a pain to maintain.

I was aware that M1 Macs would not run Windows x86/x64 VMs (it was going to be obvious, without VMWare and Parallels telling us, that running Intel machine code on a RISC Arm machine with a completely different instruction set and architecture was going to be a serious challenge), but it had been handy, and my old 2015 machine ran a couple quite well when I needed it. My comments were just that I had lost this when I moved to the new M1 based iMac for this machine. I can work around it, but it is just one of those things. You gain things (speed, efficiency, reduced size etc.) and lose some things (ability to run Windows x86/x64 VMs). I still have my Intel based iMacs and they will be around for a while so I do not have an immediate problem, but in the future, it may not be necessary.
 

glenthompson

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Apr 27, 2011
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True, but I question why a desktop Mac needs to be so thin in the first place. It's nice to be able to move it around easily, sure, but it's not like I'm hauling around in my bag all day. I could stomach another ½" of thickness and a few pounds of weight, if it got me some better speakers and more flexible ports.
I wish they had designed it similar to my LQ OLED TV. The screen is about ¼” thick with the mount and electronics in an enclosure on the lower third of the screen. The back wouldn’t have been as clean looking but they could have removed the chin.
 
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burgman

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I agree. I was coming from a 27" iMac which had very decent and loud speakers. I guess there's only so much they can do with a Mac this thin. I don't really care to clutter up my smallish desk with external speakers. These are sufficient for watching videos and the like, but not great.
If you like HomePod sound, the speakers suck. If you like HomePod mini sound then the speakers sound great.
 

petvas

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Jul 20, 2006
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Mine arrived around 10 days after ordering which was 3 weeks before predicted delivery by Apple!

1. This machine is replacing an aging 2015 27" 5K i5 iMac which we use as a general purpose machine in the kitchen/breakfast room for music etc. We have a 2020 27" i9 5K fully loaded iMac and a 2017 27" i7 (fully loaded at the time) for our more demanding and professional requirements. We also have a couple of i9 16" MBPros and an M1 MBA.
2. We ordered a yellow (goes with the walls and general decor in the area) machine with 16 GB memory and a 1 TB SSD. The keyboard is the one without numeric keypad but with Touch ID. We also ordered a matching trackpad and mouse.

Pros:
1. The machine was very well packed (in fact the packaging weighed more than the machine, see my cons!!) and was a pleasure to unpack.
2. Matching peripherals is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing because they are aesthetically nice, curse because replacements are not generally available (I am hard on mice and need to replace them more often than most people!) and they are likely to be expensive when they do make them separately available since they are color matched.
3. Easy start up and configuration. Apple have gone out of their way to make this a pleasure, with the default OS highlight colors and desktop matching the machine exterior.
4. The yellow is surprisingly pleasant and not at all jarring. It makes for a pleasant and less sombre experience. It fits in our decor.
5. That white screen surround is much less distracting than I thought it would be and matches the general demeanor of the machine.
6. Light and easy to maneuver.
7. Bright and color accurate display with high enough resolution for the size.
8. Snappy response time, with excellent disk read and write times.
9. Smaller footprint than the 27" machine it replaces.
10. Application load times excellent.
11. Runs all applications seamlessly whether or not they need Rosetta.
12. More convenient headphone port.

Cons:
1. The packaging is very substantial and weighs as much as the machine or more. Seems that they could save a little on shipping if they reduced the weight, but then would it arrive intact?
2. Screen is poor when viewing off centre so it suffers a little when several people are trying to watch it.
3. Sound is surprisingly quiet at full volume. Quality is adequate but it seems quiet and 'woolly' sounding. We use the machine with a pair of Homepods (not the Mini Homepods which are nowhere near as good in our opinion) which are excellent.
4. The keyboard has random disconnects so we are not sure whether it is faulty or not. It always comes back and works, so not sure what the issue maybe.
5. The keyboard does not have the quality feel of the full numeric gray (now discontinued) or white keyboards we use with our other iMacs. It is noisy and feels loose. Not quite the precision we were expecting (the space bar is especially noisy).
6. I keep hitting the Touch ID button when going for the delete key which puts the machine back to the login screen. My poor typing skills, I know, but I do it on all the Apple machines where the Touch ID and power is placed close to the delete key.
7. Apple software is as buggy as ever. Music is a disaster as I store all my music on the machine and each time I download it to a machine, Music cannot down load some number of tracks and I have to recover them manually from my backup. Then Music gets into a mess when it tries to upload to iCloud.
8. It tends to run out of steam with large Adobe Lightroom files and, when editing my drone movie footage, it tends to be a lot slower when rendering than my 2020 iMac (not surprising since the 2020 iMac is a powerhouse) in FCPX. I think someone likened this machine to a turbo charged engine in a car. Lots of immediate grunt but runs out of steam earlier than expected. This is to be expected given that I am comparing it to a 10 core machine with a decent graphics card. The fact that it competes at all is amazing.
9. I still need some USB A ports and thus need to have a dongle or dock to use older USB A peripherals.
10. This is a silly one but I cannot run my x64/x86 Windows VM on this machine. I have some programs that need a Windows environment and this machine cannot run them and is unlikely to in the future (emulating a Windows environment is much easier when the machine code is identical and all you to do is provide the APIs for Windows - OK not trivial but an order of magnitude simpler than trying to make it work on an ARM machine, and yes I know Windows ARM exists with built in x86 environments, but now you are into layers upon layers of emulation).
11. You get used to 27" screens so 24" screens seem small, but you get used to it.

Summary:

An excellent machine for its intended purpose and it bodes well for the future. Buy this machine if you want an easy to use machine for most regular uses e.g. email, shopping, editing documents without complex formatting and content, light photo editing and organizing, music playback etc. Do not expect it to replace the current top end 27" iMacs. But it is a fast light package and well worth the money.
I have been using my 24" M1 iMac since the end of June and I am very impressed. I had zero issues so far and RAM pressure has been low to medium in most situations, even with many apps running (including Final Cut Pro).
In these 45 days with the iMac I only heard the fans yesterday! I was rendering a 25 minute 4K HDR video in Final Cut Pro and at the same time moved 150GB of cache content from the internal SSD to my external Samsung SSD (Thunderbolt 3).
I had zero issues with keyboard disconnect and I have both keyboards (with numeric pad and without). The only disconnect I experienced was with the Magic Mouse, but it got solved by just turning the mouse off and on. This happened twice in 45 days.

The screen is great and I don't have any issue with the display angle. It's true though that the display angle sensitivity is not as good as on the 27" iMac, but this is only an issue if somebody is watching from a very odd angle.
The lack of USB A ports can be compensated by dongles. I personally have one but never used it so far.
The only thing that I would really like to have is 32GB of RAM, but having said that I have to admit that the system never had any slow downs or lag. Only in Final Cut Pro and when rendering in the background you can see a beach ball, but this was more due to Final Cut Pro and not because of the iMac (I had similar experience with my older 27" iMac with 48GB of RAM).
Overall, this is a great iMac, the best iMac Apple has ever created.
 

ignatius345

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Overall, this is a great iMac, the best iMac Apple has ever created.
I can't quite get on board with that, myself. I think the M1 chip is incredible, but the display and speakers are not as good as the 5K iMac. Though to be fair, I think this is more a replacement for the smaller iMac, not the 5K.

Personally, I wish they'd done what they did with the MacBook Air and Pro: put the M1 chip into the existing designs as an initial offering. I'd have snapped up a 27" M1 iMac in a heartbeat, even with the old design.
 

zoom25

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Jul 30, 2018
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A lot of similar comments to my experience. I found the display a better size for me due to the wider aspect ratio. I prefer width to height. As to the usb-a ports, the machine isn’t thick enough to handle them. Similar to why the headphone port is on the side. I just use a usb-c adapter with 3 usb-a ports.

Never had any issue with the keyboard. I use the full size one because I like the numeric pad. Running Windows is not an issue as I’m 99.99% Windows free. I have a cheap Windows laptop I use for the rare occasion I need to run a Windows app. Cheaper solution than paying for Parallels updates.

I thought both the current 27" and 24" iMacs have the same aspect ratio of 16:9? Unless you weren't comparing the two, but to some other device?
 

glenthompson

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I thought both the current 27" and 24" iMacs have the same aspect ratio of 16:9? Unless you weren't comparing the two, but to some other device?
I don’t have the measurements handy right now but while they’re both close to 16:9, the 24” is something like ½” narrower and 1” shorter, making is a wider ratio.
 

petvas

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I can't quite get on board with that, myself. I think the M1 chip is incredible, but the display and speakers are not as good as the 5K iMac. Though to be fair, I think this is more a replacement for the smaller iMac, not the 5K.

Personally, I wish they'd done what they did with the MacBook Air and Pro: put the M1 chip into the existing designs as an initial offering. I'd have snapped up a 27" M1 iMac in a heartbeat, even with the old design.
I find the speakers much better on the 24" iMac than on the 27". They are not as loud but they sound clearer.
The new bigger model when it comes out at some point next year will not be an iMac. It will be an iMac Pro.
 

stocklen

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I find the speakers much better on the 24" iMac than on the 27". They are not as loud but they sound clearer.
The new bigger model when it comes out at some point next year will not be an iMac. It will be an iMac Pro.
Totally agree.

I think that at 24" and an exceptionally powerful processor (M1) the iMac is THE iMac. Good enough for most that need it.

If you want a bigger screen (and 24 isn't all that much smaller than 27) then you have the option of the mac mini with your own large display.

The 'replacement' to the 27" iMac will surely be expensive... id say at least £1800 and most likely to not be available in colours but a silver and space gray variant. It will be called the iMac Pro. The processor will not be the M1 of course.. but how much power do people need in a machine.

They will end up with 24" iMac. 30+" iMac Pro.
 

zoom25

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Jul 30, 2018
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I don’t have the measurements handy right now but while they’re both close to 16:9, the 24” is something like ½” narrower and 1” shorter, making is a wider ratio.

24 iMac resolution 4480/2520 = 1.77

27 iMac resolution 5120/2880 = 1.77

16/9 = 1.77

According to the listed resolutions from the official apple page, they should both be 16:9. Am I missing something? Is that not the case in reality?

Can someone else confirm just to be sure? Thanks.
 

voolf

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I use Imac 24 . Everything suits you. But it heats up noticeably when watching videos. The room is 28 degrees.
 
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