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Mac-Addict

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I really need these questions answered..

1. Could I get a TV tuner to connect to a PS3 and a 24" iMac and not loose high def?
2. When high def comes out is there a digital tv tuner option that lets me get high def?

Ok thats all the questions I can think of.. I ust really nee to know it because if both of them or just one of them is a no I might go for a 17" iMac and buy a hd ready tv..
 

Zwhaler

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Jun 10, 2006
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Well taking it that the 24" can take in 1080i signals (not sure about 1080p) it sounds to me like you can watch hidef programming and not lose picture quality. Not sure about the PS3 tho.
 

Konradx

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It has 1920x1200 resolution meaning it supports 1080p. The problem lies in the lack of HDMI connection. Right now or atleast for a bit, Sony said it wont restrict it products, but eventually you'll need it.
 

Mac-Addict

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Are there any TV tuners that have HDMI?

Edit: God Damn it! Bad News..
Quote from Eyetv's FAQ
"Next generation systems like PlayStation 3 and XBOX 360 can use component or other higher end connections. EyeTV Hybrid can only use composite and S-Video from these systems, and cannot receive HDTV via component or other connections. Nintendo Wii will not feature HDTV, so this platform will be supported just like the current PlayStation 2/GameCube/Xbox consoles"
 

poppe

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All I know is that I have been trying to find a solution for hook up my MBP to my Gcube and Wii and what i've found is that you can do it but there is a few second lagg which really won't do for game play. I don't know about the iMac but iknow the MBP will not work that well...
 

2Shae

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I actually emailed Elgato to ask about the same thing only I want to hook up my xbox 360 with a 24" iMac because I wanted to use it as a TV and give my current TV to my sister but....they said that:
1) I can only use the elgato Hybrid but I can't use the xbox 360 in HD.
2) I can't play games in PAL 60Hz (which I apparently need for PAL games)
3) There is a chance there will be a delay while playing games

BTW: there is a device to watch HDTV on your mac but it won't work with the xbox 360/Playstation 3
 

Macmadant

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The Term HD Ready has confused me , is a HD Television have something Special or just has a resolution of something by 1080
 

mongoos150

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^?? High Definition Television is a panel that can display 720p lines of resolution: 720 vertical pixels by 1,280 horizontal pixels (de-interlaced). 1080i is interlaced 1920x1080 lines, and 1080p is 1920x1080 resolution DE-interlaced (all lines being displayed) which the iMac 24" can display. Problem is getting the right inputs into it.

EVERYONE: What I do is download 1080p content from japanese television torrent sites like JPopSuki and others. Google is your friend. Huge files but well worth it once you start watching! Unfortunately we won't be able to hook up our 720P xboxes or our 1080P PS3s.
 

Macmadant

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mongoos150 said:
^?? High Definition Television is a panel that can display 720p lines of resolution: 720 vertical pixels by 1,280 horizontal pixels (deinterlaced). 1080i is 720p interlaced, and 1080p is 1920x1080 resolution which the iMac 24" can display. Problem is getting the right inputs into it.

EVERYONE: What I do is download 1080p content from japanese television torrent sites like JPopSuki and others. Google is your friend. Huge files but well worth it once you start watching! Unfortunately we won't be able to hook up our 720P xboxes or our 1080P PS3s.

so how come when we play HD video on our macs we don't have the same picture quality, surely we should except not at that high resolution
 

mongoos150

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Macmadant said:
so how come when we play HD video on our macs we don't have the same picture quality, surely we should except not at that high resolution
Define HD video. Is it 720p? 720p is the minimum resolution video needs to be to be considered "high definition." Anything less is just... video, be it 540i or 480p/i. DVDs are 480p but can be upconverted to 720p or 1080i using an upconverting DVD player with any television.
 

Macmadant

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mongoos150 said:
Define HD video. Is it 720p? 720p is the minimum resolution video needs to be to be considered "high definition." Anything less is just... video, be it 540i or 480p/i. DVDs are 480p but can be upconverted to 720p or 1080i using an upconverting DVD player with any television.
So my imac with a resolution of 1650x1050 can show HD 720P right ?, so if i had a standard CRT monitor that could display 720P it would be in HD quality ?
 

mongoos150

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Macmadant said:
So my imac with a resolution of 1650x1050 can show HD 720P right ?, so if i had a standard CRT monitor that could display 720P it would be in HD quality ?
Correct on both counts. Just be sure you're getting actual HD video from a decent source. For more HD info check out http://www.avsforum.com - a HUGE hd av forum with threads on everything you could ever want to know about high definition video, audio, TVs, monitors, dvd players, game systems - everything about home theater (which your questions fall under). Hope this helped.
 

Macmadant

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mongoos150 said:
Correct on both counts. Just be sure you're getting actual HD video from a decent source. For more HD info check out http://www.avsforum.com - a HUGE hd av forum with threads on everything you could ever want to know about high definition video, audio, TVs, monitors, dvd players, game systems - everything about home theater (which your questions fall under). Hope this helped.

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I'm just watching some HD trailers from apple.
 

zync

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1080i is 720p interlaced, and 1080p is 1920x1080 resolution which the iMac 24" can display.

No, it's not. 1080i is 1920x1080 interlaced. It has nothing at all to do with 720p. Also of interest, 1080p has not been broadcast—1080i is the largest resolution HD that has been broadcast.
 

mongoos150

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No, it's not. 1080i is 1920x1080 interlaced. It has nothing at all to do with 720p/i. Also of interest, 1080p has not been broadcast—1080i is the largest resolution HD that has been broadcast.

In explaining resolution in layman terms, 720p IS related to 1080i. Nearly any monitor that can natively display 720p resolution can upconvert that signal to 1080i resolution by interlacing the 1920x1080 lines. 1080p is not broadcast, but that's not what this guy is interested in, he's talking source hardware. PS3, HD DVD and BluRay players all natively display 1080p content.
 

zync

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In explaining resolution in layman terms, 720p IS related to 1080i. Nearly any monitor that can natively display 720p resolution can upconvert that signal to 1080i resolution by interlacing the 1920x1080 lines. 1080p is not broadcast, but that's not what this guy is interested in, he's talking source hardware. PS3, HD DVD and BluRay players all natively display 1080p content.

I understand completely. And yes, I realize upconversion is possible on nearly any monitor. Even DVDs can be upconverted, and usually are on HDTVs.

The original comment I was responding to blatantly stated that "1080i is 720p interlaced." 1080i can indeed be a signal created from a 720p source, but to say that 1080i is only an upconversion of 720p is falsifying. This upconversion is also not called interlacing. While a progressive source may be interlaced in conversion, the conversion in size is done by a scaler. A scaler could upconvert 720p into 1080p without having to do any interlacing.

The 'i' in 1080i refers to the fact that it is an interlaced source, not that it was "interlaced" from 720p. 1080i is a somewhat erroneous term in that it's really 1080i60, though even that is erroneous as it actually ends up being more like 1080i59.94 :)

I only put that 1080p tidbit as an interesting fact, it wasn't supposed to relate to the topic of game consoles, just as my comment wasn't addressed at the original poster. Also, just because it hasn't been broadcast yet does not mean that 1080p is out of the HD standard—so it could be broadcast at some point in the future.
 
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