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I don't see any 2017 refurbs in the store right now. Any idea how much a 3.4ghz i5 with 8gb RAM and 1TB fusion drive costs when they have stock? Trying to figure out how much savings there is on a refurb.

Are they in stock often?
 
I don't see any 2017 refurbs in the store right now. Any idea how much a 3.4ghz i5 with 8gb RAM and 1TB fusion drive costs when they have stock? Trying to figure out how much savings there is on a refurb.

Are they in stock often?

apple doesn't seem to have much at all in the refurb section. Maybe new imacs are coming!

But, the standard discount for stock machines is 15%. Don't recall if that also applies to BTO.

During sales, Bestbuy tends to offer steeper discounts (on the machines that it actually stocks)
 
apple doesn't seem to have much at all in the refurb section. Maybe new imacs are coming!

But, the standard discount for stock machines is 15%. Don't recall if that also applies to BTO.

During sales, Bestbuy tends to offer steeper discounts (on the machines that it actually stocks)

Okay, then if you live in CA you don't save much by the time you add sales tax and compare to buying out of state. It sounds like the "online ordering out of state without sales tax" party is over soon....
 
Do not buy a 1TB Fusion Drive, nor even a 2/3TB Fusion. Go for an SSD of say 512GB and if necessary an external for photos, movies etc. Fusion Drives only supply a limited capacity PCI-e Blade Drive, in nsome instances as little as 24GB too small for the operating system.
 
Do not buy a 1TB Fusion Drive, nor even a 2/3TB Fusion. Go for an SSD of say 512GB and if necessary an external for photos, movies etc. Fusion Drives only supply a limited capacity PCI-e Blade Drive, in nsome instances as little as 24GB too small for the operating system.
macOS requires about 7.5 GB of drive space. No problem for even a small SSD part.
 
Well, I hope a 1TB fusion drive will be sufficient for regular office work. I bought one for a bookkeeper so hopefully it works out for her. She'll be doing basic bookkeeping, microsoft office, web browsing, etc.

Does anyone out there have a 1TB fusion drive that works okay for them? I got the 2017 i5 3.4ghz with 1TB fusion....I'm hoping it will be fine for what I bought it for?
 
Can't you get one from eBay?

One popped up on the refurb store for $1529 and I snatched it, they are out of stock again...it's the 1TB version but like i said this is for mostly office work with no heavy lifting. It should be just fine for that (hopefully). I'm waiting for the next generation before I buy one for myself.
 
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Does anyone out there have a 1TB fusion drive that works okay for them? I got the 2017 i5 3.4ghz with 1TB fusion....I'm hoping it will be fine for what I bought it for?
Don't worry about it. The FD is collectively hated and badmouthed only in the tech bubble on the internet, for example on forums like these. The real world effect between a FD and an SSD is noticeable for sure, but it's not as drastic as many make it out to be and for most users it is absolutely and 100% negligible.

Case in point: I've recently purchased a 27" iMac 5K i5 refurbished for my daily work. After I'd had it for a few weeks I actually installed an external SSD via USB-C and ran macOS off that SSD instead of the internal FD to figure out whether it was worth the cost and hassle. Yes, it was certainly faster but no, it was not worth the extra investment in a 512 GB external SSD (the one I had used was a 256GB SSD I borrowed from a ThinkPad). Truth be told once the iMac had been running for 1-2 hours I couldn't tell the difference between it being booted from FD and from SSD anymore. It was much slower booting up and launching applications for the first time from the FD but that evened out after a few hours - basically once I had all my applications running and in memory. After that there was absolutely no difference anymore. The most important thing is to tell your bookkeeper is to never actually power the iMac off but to put it to sleep instead. It'll be back up within 2-3 seconds and since applications are still in memory they will launch instantly.

I use mine for software development in Java, system operations & development, writing technical documentation, occasional bookkeeping, remote system administration, etc. It's not the heaviest of workloads but it's certainly more than most people do.
 
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Don't worry about it. The FD is collectively hated and badmouthed only in the tech bubble on the internet, for example on forums like these. The real world effect between a FD and an SSD is noticeable for sure, but it's not as drastic as many make it out to be and for most users it is absolutely and 100% negligible.

Case in point: I've recently purchased a 27" iMac 5K i5 refurbished for my daily work. After I'd had it for a few weeks I actually installed an external SSD via USB-C and ran macOS off that SSD instead of the internal FD to figure out whether it was worth the cost and hassle. Yes, it was certainly faster but no, it was not worth the extra investment in a 512 GB external SSD (the one I had used was a 256GB SSD I borrowed from a ThinkPad). Truth be told once the iMac had been running for 1-2 hours I couldn't tell the difference between it being booted from FD and from SSD anymore. It was much slower booting up and launching applications for the first time from the FD but that evened out after a few hours - basically once I had all my applications running and in memory. After that there was absolutely no difference anymore. The most important thing is to tell your bookkeeper is to never actually power the iMac off but to put it to sleep instead. It'll be back up within 2-3 seconds and since applications are still in memory they will launch instantly.

I use mine for software development in Java, system operations & development, writing technical documentation, occasional bookkeeping, remote system administration, etc. It's not the heaviest of workloads but it's certainly more than most people do.

Great news. I figure a baseline 2017 machine should be able to handle regular office work with no issues, and I understand that a lot of the techy discussions online are often just splitting hairs. For myself I'll be maxing out the next generation, whenver that may be. Thanks for the feedback.
 
Do not buy a 1TB Fusion Drive, nor even a 2/3TB Fusion. Go for an SSD of say 512GB and if necessary an external for photos, movies etc. Fusion Drives only supply a limited capacity PCI-e Blade Drive, in nsome instances as little as 24GB too small for the operating system.

The 512GB SSD configuration has a $300 premium over the 1TB Fusion Drive.

At that price, you might as well get the base configuration (1TB Fusion Drive) and replace the hard drive with a 2TB Micron SSD.
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Great news. I figure a baseline 2017 machine should be able to handle regular office work with no issues, and I understand that a lot of the techy discussions online are often just splitting hairs. For myself I'll be maxing out the next generation, whenver that may be. Thanks for the feedback.

You can get the 1TB Fusion Drive configuration and replace the hard drive with a solid state drive.
 
The 512GB SSD configuration has a $300 premium over the 1TB Fusion Drive.

At that price, you might as well get the base configuration (1TB Fusion Drive) and replace the hard drive with a 2TB Micron SSD.
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You can get the 1TB Fusion Drive configuration and replace the hard drive with a solid state drive.

Okay great, even more good news that if the TB isn't working for us we'll have it replaced.
 
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The refurbs are back in stock, but it doesn't sound like there's anyone who wants one with a Fusion Drive.. :)
 
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