40GB or 128GB RAM the

[Mac Write]

Hello all.

Been 2 weeks since I got my top of the line iMac with 8GB RAM. A few things learned.

1. From now on I am going to be on a 3-year cycle as due to being disabled and on disability I rely on my computer heavily.
2. I am going to put away $150/month so that the day AppleCare+ expires I buy a new Mac, so I have a backup Mac in place along with AppleCare+
3. I have lost the ability to run MacOS 10.8 > 10.13 natively and to me this is important for historical reasons.

So now I am looking at RAM (I live in Canada), and I feel going 2x16GB will mean that when my life journey as a video creator documenting my life with 6 disabilities and being over 600lbs, that 40GB RAM won't be enough especially when the channel is successful and I need to do 3 camera+ 4K+ video editing. At that time I see it as a waste to replace the stock 2x4GB+2x16GB RAM, as that is money down the drain.

I would gladly get quality 2x32GB DIMMs to lesson the blow, but there is no quality provider offering that option and only OWC is offering 4x32GB RAM, and to import that into Canada is pricy and I have had their RAM fail on my before.

I have a Core i9/Vega48/2TB/8GB RAM and plan to start the weekly weigh in and the "real weight loss journey" this month and find real experts and measure more then weight, so I am not sure if 40GB will last long. I will also be producing a daily livestream and then high quality archive of that stream doing workouts from home.

Sorry for the long winded post, but after loosing my first ever Mac (rMBP 2012) while having the Beige G3, MDD G4 DP 1.25Ghz and Mac Pro 1,1 Quad 2.66Ghz still working, I am just upset about the loss of access to those older OS's (10.8 > 10.13).

 

[Zdigital2015]

Hello all.

Been 2 weeks since I got my top of the line iMac with 8GB RAM. A few things learned.

1. From now on I am going to be on a 3-year cycle as due to being disabled and on disability I rely on my computer heavily.
2. I am going to put away $150/month so that the day AppleCare+ expires I buy a new Mac, so I have a backup Mac in place along with AppleCare+
3. I have lost the ability to run MacOS 10.8 > 10.13 natively and to me this is important for historical reasons.

So now I am looking at RAM (I live in Canada), and I feel going 2x16GB will mean that when my life journey as a video creator documenting my life with 6 disabilities and being over 600lbs, that 40GB RAM won't be enough especially when the channel is successful and I need to do 3 camera+ 4K+ video editing. At that time I see it as a waste to replace the stock 2x4GB+2x16GB RAM, as that is money down the drain.

I would gladly get quality 2x32GB DIMMs to lesson the blow, but there is no quality provider offering that option and only OWC is offering 4x32GB RAM, and to import that into Canada is pricy and I have had their RAM fail on my before.

I have a Core i9/Vega48/2TB/8GB RAM and plan to start the weekly weigh in and the "real weight loss journey" this month and find real experts and measure more then weight, so I am not sure if 40GB will last long. I will also be producing a daily livestream and then high quality archive of that stream doing workouts from home.

Sorry for the long winded post, but after loosing my first ever Mac (rMBP 2012) while having the Beige G3, MDD G4 DP 1.25Ghz and Mac Pro 1,1 Quad 2.66Ghz still working, I am just upset about the loss of access to those older OS's (10.8 > 10.13).

40GB of DRAM will be sufficient for the work that you are doing and will be fine for 3 cameras at 4K. Before spending money on 128GB of DRAM, you should reassess your video workflow and ensure that you have optimized it between what CODEC you are capturing in, how much storage you have and how fast it is, whether an external recorder (Atomos) makes sense (just the main camera) and what you’re using to edit (Final Cut Pro X or DaVinci Resolve would be better choices than Premiere). For some reassurances from an expert, check out Larry Jordan’s website and this article specifically - https://larryjordan.com/articles/what-you-must-know-before-buying-your-next-computer/

You’ll have to explain why losing access to 10.8 through 10.13 is such a big deal. Do you have apps that only run under those OSes? Unless there is no way to update those apps to run under Mojave, “historical reasons” is ambiguous at best. If it’s because you’re nostalgic, your ambitions aren’t going to leave much time for that. Good luck!

 

[Mac Write]

I am looking at it in the way of having to replace the 2x16GB which cost over $200CDN down the road.

My goal for this computer (now that I am on a AppleCare+ cycle of 3 years) is to start with my Nikon D70 1080p, Canon VIXIA S100 1080p. Since I want to do a documentary on my journey I might do direct HDMI capture.

As for the "break" in OS access this is big to me as I have never had this happen before and I want to be able to have access to all MacOS versions.

My first FreeNAS still has 11TB left on it (minus 20% over-head) for RAW footage stage as well as a 6TB WD Black USB3 for scratch (though now I am going to use it as an Archive drive)

I also will be running Parallels Desktop for fun with building Mac networks and learning. That is going to be allot of RAM right there.

Bottom line. I would rather save $500CDN and get 128GB today then have to replace RAM later. I look long term (also to the event that I my iMac has to last 5-7 years worse case (or until it does, which then will leave me with no access to the macOS's it supports natively).

I should also add I will be using Logic Pro to create my own music and Motion for the graphics (using Pixelates Pro).

My "gut" tells me 128GB. normally can easily price out Macs and needs etc, but this one got me thinking.

Is there any other place offering 128GB other then OWC?

I am on disability and don't work so not having time for fun isn't an issue.

 

[Zdigital2015]

I am looking at it in the way of having to replace the 2x16GB which cost over $200CDN down the road.

My goal for this computer (now that I am on a AppleCare+ cycle of 3 years) is to start with my Nikon D70 1080p, Canon VIXIA S100 1080p. Since I want to do a documentary on my journey I might do direct HDMI capture.

As for the "break" in OS access this is big to me as I have never had this happen before and I want to be able to have access to all MacOS versions.

My first FreeNAS still has 11TB left on it (minus 20% over-head) for RAW footage stage as well as a 6TB WD Black USB3 for scratch (though now I am going to use it as an Archive drive)

I also will be running Parallels Desktop for fun with building Mac networks and learning. That is going to be allot of RAM right there.

Bottom line. I would rather save $500CDN and get 128GB today then have to replace RAM later. I look long term (also to the event that I my iMac has to last 5-7 years worse case (or until it does, which then will leave me with no access to the macOS's it supports natively).

I am on disability and don't work so not having time for fun isn't an issue.

Neither of those cameras/camcorders that you listed are going to be taxing on your system, even with 8GB of DRAM. You might find it beneficial to use just those until you have a better sense of how much DRAM you actually use and need.

RAW video capture is not available with either of them, so an external recorder is not necessary, just some decent SD cards to record MPEG4. The best bit rate for the Vixia is 24Mbps, which is nothing at this point, one of the benefits of 1080p.

To each his or her own, but two 16GB DIMMs now will be much cheaper, just as useful and the two 4GB DIMMs from the factory can be taken out at some point in the future and swapped with two more 16GB DIMMs for a total of 64GB, which is plenty, even for multiple VMs.

Again, good luck with your journey.

 

[Mac Write]

Update: Looks like OWC has 2x32GB for $500cdn after tax and shipping. That is a perfect balance and my preferred option. If or when I tax 72GB of RAM then I will add another 2x32GB of RAM.

Now to save for the RAM for the next month or 2.

 

[ridgero]

M471A4G43MB1-CTD

Bought 2x32 GB for 280,- Euro today

 

[gian8989]

In my opinion if you really want to get all that RAM you should buy 4x16 GB and remove the apple RAM so that you won't have any problem. You will never use 128 GB RAM. Even 64 is going to be hard.

 

[ridgero]

128 GB is fine for people who work with big orchestra libraries

 

[mmomega]

So replacing RAM at around $200 is the breaking point but a multi-thousand dollar machine every 3 years is not too big a deal.
Just reading this story appears odd and off to myself, it very well may not be.

A lot of those creators started their following with cell phone cameras and computers extremely less powerful than the one you have right this moment.

Either way, good luck on your continued success.

 

[Mac Write]

Hey my Nikon D70 is 8 years old and the Canon VIXIA S10 was top of the line in 2009 when my mom bought it. This is what I have to work with to start.

as for switching to every 3 years, having my rMBP (when I was able to work in 2012 and bought it) died suddenly and unexpectedly. 2 weeks on a PC was hell for me since I am legally blind and the user zoom features was garbage compared to Apples zoom feature.

I am putting away $150/month so I will have money for a new computer in 3 years and remember I am in Canada so out $0.75.

I also want to do my own music (keyboard only) for the daily and weekly show I want to do on YouTube.

 

[Hexley]

Curious, for those running on 128GB of RAM what's your use case?

I am thinking of getting 2x32GB and also use 2x4GB that came with the iMac Core i9 for a total of 72GB of RAM