Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

ericg301

macrumors 68020
Jun 15, 2010
2,329
2,640
It could be that Apple is looking to undercut the other credit card companies fees with their ApplePay offer(s). Apple has the backing to pull it off.

Until apple gives retailers like Target and Kroger the ability to track purchase behavior, it'll be hard to crack 50%. To those types of stores, user data is their marketing lifeblood.
 

Apple_Robert

Contributor
Sep 21, 2012
35,673
52,524
In a van down by the river
Until apple gives retailers like Target and Kroger the ability to track purchase behavior, it'll be hard to crack 50%. To those types of stores, user data is their marketing lifeblood.
Valid point.

Even though that that is a big inside draw for said companies, the bottom dollar is even more compelling in the long run. In our current economic climate, I think the latter will have more pull than the former.
 

Jason Cox

macrumors member
Aug 23, 2012
31
12
Dallas, TX
Until apple gives retailers like Target and Kroger the ability to track purchase behavior, it'll be hard to crack 50%. To those types of stores, user data is their marketing lifeblood.
Kroger doesn't need any help tracking purchase behavior; they already have their loyalty card program and speaking for the targeted coupons I get it's pretty darn good.
 

stulaw11

Suspended
Jan 25, 2012
1,391
1,624
Yeh a lot of stores, especially grocery, have loyalty cards that take care of purchase tracking.

There is also replacing all of those terminals (and especially those that were just updated to take chip) and back end software, training employees, and then labor to change it all over.

The Apple Pay fees are nominal in realty, I believe I read "0.15% of the 2% fee paid by merchants for each credit-card payment and half a penny for each debit card payment." So what, 15 cents per $100? They are offset by the better security and less fraud.

a LOT of it is internal company politics and alliances, not money
 
Last edited:

DblHelix

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2009
814
660
Wonder what Apple is doing to make this happen???

In the bay we are spoiled. I only know a handful of places that don’t accept it. Mostly bars and restaurants. My corner market accepts it, all 3 grocery stores I use, most retailers. Now, at my parents in the Central Valley almost no one does
 

VolceOntra

macrumors 6502
Apr 25, 2007
342
124
The Apple Pay fees are nominal in realty, I believe I read "0.15% of the 2% fee paid by merchants for each credit-card payment and half a penny for each debit card payment." So what, 15 cents per $100? They are offset by the better security and less fraud.

a LOT of it is internal company politics and alliances, not money

It isn't the store that pays those fees, but the backing financial institution. It's completely free for the user and the merchant.
 

ericg301

macrumors 68020
Jun 15, 2010
2,329
2,640
Kroger doesn't need any help tracking purchase behavior; they already have their loyalty card program and speaking for the targeted coupons I get it's pretty darn good.

As of now, Apple Pay transactions cannot be linked to loyalty cards. I think. Part of what makes AP secure is the lack of identifier.
 

jakeenzo

macrumors regular
Sep 18, 2014
123
135
I don't know about the US but in the UK, any retailer that accepts contactless payments will accept Apple Pay which is about 80% of the country.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.