iPad Pro 64gb or 256gb do to using external SSD

[Aces2412]

If this is been asked before on this form I’m sorry I looked for it I didn’t see it.

I’m looking to buy a 12 inch iPad Pro and normally I would always get more memory but since the new iOS for iPad allows external hard drive use for transferring files back-and-forth is it better to get the 64 GB and save $200 to put toward a Samsung T5.
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[casperes1996]

If you need access to the data often, for a device like the iPad, it adds significantly to the space the setup takes up and the speed of used (usability not performance) to need it to be connected to something. If you use the iPad handheld, needing something hanging off it can make it feel less elegant easily.

External storage is viable for many workflows, allows offloading and such. But for data you need to access often and in many places, it's much nicer to have enough space on device.

 

[Aces2412]

If you need access to the data often, for a device like the iPad, it adds significantly to the space the setup takes up and the speed of used (usability not performance) to need it to be connected to something. If you use the iPad handheld, needing something hanging off it can make it feel less elegant easily.

External storage is viable for many workflows, allows offloading and such. But for data you need to access often and in many places, it's much nicer to have enough space on device.

thanks. My plan would be to use the ssd with lumafusion, if that is even possible. If you have to download to the iPad regardless then 256 it is.

 

[LovingTeddy]

If this is been asked before on this form I’m sorry I looked for it I didn’t see it.

I’m looking to buy a 12 inch iPad Pro and normally I would always get more memory but since the new iOS for iPad allows external hard drive use for transferring files back-and-forth is it better to get the 64 GB and save $200 to put toward a Samsung T5.
Thx and yes it’s due not do. I am donkey

Depends on what you do. For example, Lumafusion, even under iPadOS, files are not directly accessed from your external storage space. All the video footage will be copied into the internal iPad storage first before you can do any editing. Therefore, if you are going to add large video files, you will need iPad with large enough internal storage spaces.

Also, if you are going to do use your external drive with iPad, I would recommend you formate the disk to AFS by using Disk utilities found under Mac. ExFat can be recognized by iPad, but often large file transfer will end up with error. Using AFS not only works better for file transfer, but also significantly faster when transferring files/

 

[Shirasaki]

I used to think like you when the iOS 13 was just released and my return window just passed. I got the 256GB version iPad Pro 2018 and was tempting to sell this one and get 512GB version since I wanted to store a huge chunk of iTunes library songs on my iPad (400GB in size). Now I just stick to 256GB because I do not pay a lot to upgrade from 64GB (half of the upgrade price from 256GB to 512GB), plus I can still store a good chunk of stuff.

Therefore, my opinion is to go for 256GB version, and add external SSD when needed. Also, I hope you get iPad Pro 2018 because this iPad is the first one that using external storage is a more viable option.
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Using AFS not only works better for file transfer, but also significantly faster when transferring files/

Don’t tell me in iOS 13 beta, Apple has crippled HFS+ and exFAT in favour of APFS.

 

[0989382]

Nothing beats the internal storage on the iPad as even with flawless SSD support, it's additional steps and adds the risk of forgetting the drive - a real stop on your workflow.

 

[TheRealAlex]

If this is been asked before on this form I’m sorry I looked for it I didn’t see it.

I’m looking to buy a 12 inch iPad Pro and normally I would always get more memory but since the new iOS for iPad allows external hard drive use for transferring files back-and-forth is it better to get the 64 GB and save $200 to put toward a Samsung T5.
Thx and yes it’s due not do. I am donkey

The iPad Pro Max data transfer rate via its USB-C port is slower than expected.

You will also need a proper USB-C to USB-C cable.
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Thund...4aab6249e31079940a6f5f5303b3bc&language=en_US

I also recall reading that cables longer than 1 meter do not provide very high data transfer speeds.

This is what I use atm, and no matter what I know the iPad Pro 11 isn’t faster than this drive.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/portable/x5/

It’s just an nvme M.2 in a rugged external enclosure. You can make your own using parts from amazon.

 

[muzzy996]

For now LumaFusion doesn’t support external drives connected via USB (at least on the lightning to USB 3.0 adapter) either for working directly on the drive or even importing.

For me the sandboxing of internal storage for applications that is native to iOS is still a hindrance to my preferred workflows despite the move towards better file browsing and external storage support in iOS 13/iPadOS. Inherently the desire for free and easy browsing is in conflict with the desire for security. That’s never going to change, and compromises in one have to be made in order to support the other. Hopefully as development of iOS continues things will improve over time but for now it’s a PITA.

My preferred workflow for video editing is to work within a single project folder and to compile all of my source files within that before starting my project. I tried to do this in Lumafusion this weekend with some success but the process was convoluted since my sources of video varied.

I shot a bunch of video and photos while on a boat on Saturday using 3 different cameras (a mirrorless compact, my 12.9 iPP and my Android phone). As conditions changed I had to adapt and use one recording option vs the other. Depending upon source the transfer of files into my working folder within LumaFusion differed. Keep in mind that LumaFusion just like any other app works within its own sandbox in terms of internal storage too, the app just happens to be able to support network storage as well.

Transfer of iPP footage from camera roll into a user folder within LumaFusion necessitated the use of FileBrowser Business (which I purchased). iOS’s native Files app does not support browsing and copying of camera roll files from camera roll into “On My iPad” folders. This was a TWO STEP process because FileBrowser works in its own sandbox. Step 1 was to copy photos/videos from camera roll into the “On My iPad” destination in FileBrowser. Step 2 was go jump into the native iOS Files app and move the copies from FileBrowser’s internal storage location into the user data folder of LumaFusion. Had the Files app supported camera roll browsing this would have been a 1 step process.

Transfer of footage from my mirrorless camera was accomplished using iOS’s native Files app and a lightning to USB 3.0 adapter along with a card reader. FileBrowser Business does not support browsing the external USB card reader that I have.

Transfer of footage from my Android phone required the use of a computer. None of the file utilities (Files, FIleBrowser or Documents by Readdle) could see files on my OnePlus 6T.

Again - once LumaFusion supports external USB drive I think things will be much easier for me. I’ll still have to finagle files from various sources onto an external SSD but once on there I’d be fine.

 

[casperes1996]

So, any third party apps can't access the external storage directly before iOS 13 is publicly available. When that happens, LumaFusion should be able to issue an update allowing editing directly off of external media.

 

[TheRealAlex]

VLC Player and 256GB Of 1080p Ripped Netflix downloads, I’m good with about 80 Movies and TV shows.

You can’t even tell the difference 4K vs 1080p on an 11” Display and I’d much rather have 4GB to 6GB movie files than 20GB to 40GB 4K files.

 

[AutomaticApple]

Thx and yes it’s due not do. I am donkey

What do you mean by donkey?

 

[EugW]

The 2019 model iPad Pros will likely get 128 GB at the entry level. That’s the sweet spot for me.

VLC Player and 256GB Of 1080p Ripped Netflix downloads, I’m good with about 80 Movies and TV shows.

You can’t even tell the difference 4K vs 1080p on an 11” Display and I’d much rather have 4GB to 6GB movie files than 20GB to 40GB 4K files.

Yeah but if you already have 4K files, are going to waste time re-encoding them to 1080p?

OTOH, I personally don’t need 80 videos with me at all times.

 

[rui no onna]

Yeah but if you already have 4K files, are going to waste time re-encoding them to 1080p?

Sometimes, it's simple necessity. The Avengers: Endgame 4K UHD rip is 52GB (main movie only with Dolby Atmos track). The four main Avengers titles in 1:1 UHD rip would be 200GB all by themselves.

Thankfully, most releases come with digital copies nowadays so one doesn't need to encode unless one has some esoteric requirement.

Mind, I streamed the 4K rip (on Infuse Pro) to the iPad Pro 12.9 and the resolution difference is surprisingly noticeable. HDR is where it really pops, though.

OTOH, I personally don’t need 80 videos with me at all times.

For me, it's not so much that I'll watch everything but I want to have a good selection to choose from.

 

[EugW]

Sometimes, it's simple necessity. The Avengers: Endgame 4K UHD rip is 52GB (main movie only with Dolby Atmos track). The four main Avengers titles in 1:1 UHD rip would be 200GB all by themselves.

I don't bother ripping any of these if I have the discs. I'm curious, do you have hundreds of terabytes of ripped titles or something?

Thankfully, most releases come with digital copies nowadays so one doesn't need to encode unless one has some esoteric requirement.

Bingo.

Or sometimes I don't buy the disc at all, and just get the digital copy alone, particularly for 2nd tier movies.

Mind, I streamed the 4K rip (on Infuse Pro) to the iPad Pro 12.9 and the resolution difference is surprisingly noticeable. HDR is where it really pops, though.

For the originals, I play the original 4K discs on a 65" 10-bit OLED, with full uncompressed Dolby Atmos on my Atmos 5.1.2 sound system.

For me, it's not so much that I'll watch everything but I want to have a good selection to choose from.

Yeah, but 80? Are you watching even 1/4 of them? If so, that's still 20, which is an awful lot.

 

[rui no onna]

I don't bother ripping any of these if I have the discs. I'm curious, do you have hundreds of terabytes of ripped titles or something?

Maybe around 10-20TB on NAS? Started it back when Netflix was still DVD by mail-only. Serves as DRM-free backup to my discs as well. The anime and TV series tend to be the most space consuming and I've only ripped a fraction of those. Also, only started ripping 4K very, very recently (Avengers: Endgame 4K) and I won't be upgrading all my Blu-rays to 4K.

Yeah, but 80? Are you watching even 1/4 of them? If so, that's still 20, which is an awful lot.

Again, selection. I'm certainly not going to watch all of them at once but I want plenty of options to choose from for whatever might strike my mood. On long trips, I actually carry way more than 80.

We go on month-long vacations to the Philippines (unreliable internet+geographic restrictions) to visit relatives and there's a ton of downtime (~200 hours). Even more downtime when there are typhoons messing up plans. I actually carry a laptop (Plex Server) + 4TB portable HDD with pretty much a full copy of the NAS (lower quality or transcoded when necessary). That's hundreds of anime, TV shows and movies. Of course, with the HDD only costing $100, useable across device upgrades, and shareable amongst the entire family (and guests), it's a fairly cheap way to carry movies.

Until 512GB, I didn't store any videos on the iPad as I needed all the space for favorite or TBR manga/comics. Now, I keep some favorites and babysitting essentials on there, too: Disney Classics, Pixar, MCU, Nolanverse Batman, Tim Burton Batman, Matrix, rom-coms, etc.

 

[sparksd]

Maybe around 10-20TB on NAS? Started it back when Netflix was still DVD by mail-only. Serves as DRM-free backup to my discs as well. The anime and TV series tend to be the most space consuming and I've only ripped a fraction of those. Also, only started ripping 4K very, very recently (Avengers: Endgame 4K) and I won't be upgrading all my Blu-rays to 4K.


Again, selection. I'm certainly going to watch all of them at once but I want plenty of options to choose from for whatever might strike my mood. On long trips, I actually carry way more than 80.

We go on month-long vacations to the Philippines (unreliable internet+geographic restrictions) to visit relatives and there's a ton of downtime (~200 hours). Even more downtime when there are typhoons messing up plans. I actually carry a laptop (Plex Server) + 4TB portable HDD with pretty much a full copy of the NAS (lower quality or transcoded when necessary). That's hundreds of anime, TV shows and movies. Of course, with the HDD only costing $100, useable across device upgrades, and shareable amongst the entire family (and guests), it's a fairly cheap way to carry movies.

Until 512GB, I didn't store any videos on the iPad as I needed all the space for favorite or TBR manga/comics. Now, I keep some favorites and babysitting essentials on there, too: Disney Classics, Pixar, MCU, Nolanverse Batman, Tim Burton Batman, Matrix, rom-coms, etc.

I do the same for the same reasons, only I use a wireless FileHub + 4TB portable HDD.

 

[rui no onna]

I do the same for the same reasons, only I use a wireless FileHub + 4TB portable HDD.

I wanted a Netflix-like (or XBMC) experience so I went with Plex Media Server.

Now that Infuse Pro has built-in support for library and metadata view though, I'm thinking of going a similar route as you. How well does the FileHub handle multiple simultaneous clients (e.g. 4)?

 

[sparksd]

I wanted a Netflix-like (or XBMC) experience so I went with Plex Media Server.

Now that Infuse Pro has built-in support for library and metadata view though, I'm thinking of going a similar route as you. How well does the FileHub handle multiple simultaneous clients (e.g. 4)?

Most I've done is 3 and that worked.