80% of my Wallet cards and tickets wiped after 16.6 update

[Rivvvers]

After the 16.6 update 80% of my apple wallet cards have disappeared, pretty much all of my loyalty cards have gone and I’ve got maybe 70-60% of my saved but expired Cinema tickets (which I like to keep)
Non of the bank cards have been touch tho.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Honestly I’m getting so tired of apples flakey ass iCloud syncing

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Ah man, that sucks..

I just checked and all mine are still there, including a couple expired airline tickets.

 

[Cruncher]

I did not experience that. But expired Cards can be shown at the bottom. There is a button for showing all my expired cards. You can disable this option if you want in "Settings -> Wallet & Apple Pay".
Check also this Article from Apple Support: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212170

 

[Rivvvers]

I did not experience that. But expired Cards can be shown at the bottom. There is a button for showing all my expired cards. You can disable this option if you want in "Settings -> Wallet & Apple Pay".
Check also this Article from Apple Support: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212170

No it’s nothing like that. All cards got remove but the bank cards.
Only thing apple support could muster was the suggestion to restore an old phone from the previous day backup and turn off apple wallet sync on my main phone

 

[boswald]

My debit card was removed so I feel your pain. The card definitely works so I have no idea why it can’t be used.

 

[Rivvvers]

Things like this really shouldn’t be happening with Apple products.

But I found out something that I thought I should share with everybody in case this happens to anybody else in the future.

All cards in the Apple wallet are actually physical files. Granted they’re not accessible through in iCloud but you can share them out so they duplicate into physical files that are accessible.

Step 1.
Try and recover your cards from backup, or from message attachments like I did.
I’ve sent my girlfriend a lot of Loyalty cards, cinema tickets, train tickets, flight tickets, so I went into our conversation tap the name at the top and scrolled down to the bottom where it has a section called "Wallet" where all your wallet items are stored.
Find the card/ticket, long press till preview pops up then tap the share button look towards the bottom and you can see "Save to Files" then save to desired directory within iCloud (this is the only way ive found to save to files on iOS).
The default name will be ‘data’, so you will have to change that to what you want, and then append the name with .pkpass this will turn into an officially recognised wallet file.

Step 2.
Save Wallet cards to Messages.
To do this, you cannot open it directly from the Files app. Nothing will happen.
What you have to do is share the file from the Files app to Messages and address it your own email. Do that for every single wallet pass card youve found. This way the cards/tickets are saved for future if anything goes wrong again and they’re synced up to iCloud via message syncing.

Step 3.
Add Cards back to Wallet.
Go into your own conversation in Messages, tap your name at the top of the scroll down to the wallet section.
Tap on each wallet card you sent to yourself and then the add to wallet splash screen will appear, then just add to Wallet as normal.
Do this individually for each card.

Hope this helps.

Note: After saving these files to iCloud, I would honestly consider storing them there permanently if you care to, I’ve also decided to create a Wallet section in my password manager and attach these .pkpass to the corresponding loyalty card so they are easily recoverable in future.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

 

[KaliYoni]

All cards in the Apple wallet are actually physical files. Granted they’re not accessible through in iCloud but you can share them out so they duplicate into physical files that are accessible.

Question: after you completed Step 1, were you able to see what information is contained in each file? Further, are the files encrypted?

 

[Rivvvers]

Question: after you completed Step 1, were you able to see what information is contained in each file? Further, are the files encrypted?

they appear to be encrypted, yes.
But macOS does seem to have some basic support for these .pkpass files that I didn't know about before, see screenshot.