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Christopher11

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Sorry if my terminology is clunky. I need to buy another 87w charger, and the ones on Amazon seem not to have the provision to use the extension power cord. I always use those, otherwise I'm very limited where I can work. Is there one on Amazon that does let me use an extension cable? Thank you for any help.

 

iStorm

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Buy a proper 87w charger from Apple.
Apple doesn't make or sell the 87W power adapter anymore.

@Christopher11, you can get the 96W adapter instead. It doesn't have to be exactly 87W just because the old one was 87W. The Mac will only draw the power it needs.

 
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Christopher11

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Excellent. It will be here tomorrow. Thank you.

By the way, if I bought a new MB Pro, would the 96w work for that?
 

iStorm

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By the way, if I bought a new MB Pro, would the 96w work for that?
Yes, it'll work. There are some things to be aware of though. Some of the new MBPs (with the Pro and Max chips) come with a 140W charger. The 96W charger will work, but it may not keep the MBP charged if you're really pushing it with a heavy workload.

FWIW, I'm still using my old 87W charger with my new MBP that came a 140W charger. I also just realized my AV adapter is capping it to 55W...so 55W is apparently still enough juice to keep my MBP charged for what I've been doing on it.
 
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Christopher11

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Yes, it'll work. There are some things to be aware of though. Some of the new MBPs (with the Pro and Max chips) come with a 140W charger. The 96W charger will work, but it may not keep the MBP charged if you're really pushing it with a heavy workload.

FWIW, I'm still using my old 87W charger with my new MBP that came a 140W charger. I also just realized my AV adapter is capping it to 55W...so 55W is apparently still enough juice to keep my MBP charged for what I've been doing on it.
Interesting. How do you like your new MBPro? Is it an M2? I was going to get one in the spring, buy it from Apple, M3 with 64GB of RAM and 4TB ssd. I'll probably get the middle level processor. I imagine it will still be crazy powerful compared to the one I'm used to now, this 2018 2.9ghz intel i9.

This 96w adapter is working great by the way, thank you to everyone for the advice.
 

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Interesting. How do you like your new MBPro? Is it an M2? I was going to get one in the spring, buy it from Apple, M3 with 64GB of RAM and 4TB ssd. I'll probably get the middle level processor. I imagine it will still be crazy powerful compared to the one I'm used to now, this 2018 2.9ghz intel i9.

This 96w adapter is working great by the way, thank you to everyone for the advice.
Mine is a 16" M3 Pro MBP, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD. (Upgraded from a 2017 MBP.) I'm really enjoying it so far. It's super fast and the battery life is insane. I thought my old was fine or "good enough", but it's amazing how slow it feels now.
 

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It would really take quite a Mac, and quite a workload, to cause one to discharge on a 96W adapter. The full-on M3 Max certainly can when pushed - people have reported that machine can draw 120W sustained if both CPU and GPU are running full blast. Very little will light that monster up to full blast for long (much of why you want that performance is for burst power for things like photo noise reduction). Of course, you CAN cause it to stay at that power level - exporting a feature-length film would peg the power meter to the wall and leave it there for hours.

As far as I can tell, the two real reasons for the 140W adapter (both of which have some validity) are to allow reasonably fast charging when the Mac is in use in a heavy workload (it may not be easy to peg one at 120W or more for an hour, but there are quite a few workloads that will sustain 50-80 watts), and to allow full power at a low state of charge. At least the 16/40 M3 Max, and I suspect the 14/30 as well, CAN exceed 100 watts, and supplying only a 96W adapter would mean that the machine couldn't run at full power PLUGGED IN if the battery were low.

I'm not sure that either of those justifications apply as much to the M3 Pro. It has about half the processor power draw of the fully enabled M3 Max (half the CPU performance cores and just under half the GPU cores). Of course, the auxiliary draws are closer - it has less than half the RAM channels, but SSD, neural engine, I/O and display should all be comparable. I think they just supply the 140W adapter with all 16" models to make their SKU-tracking lives easier... The 14" never comes with the 140W adapter - the M3 and lower-spec M3 Pro come with the 70W adapter, while the high-spec M3 Pro and M3 Max come with the 96W adapter.

Could it be as simple as the cutouts in the box? The 70W and 96W adapters are NOT the same size, so they do need two inserts for the 14" box (but it could be as simple as a small extra insert that makes the hole smaller for the 70W). The 140W adapter is both considerably larger and rectangular, so it would require two entirely different box inserts for the 16" if it sometimes came with the 96W brick and sometimes with the 140W unit. Maybe it's just that simple - the 140W brick is necessary for certain 16" configurations and Apple doesn't want to use different boxes, so they just put it in all of them?
 
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Christopher11

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That's fantastic information man, and interesting thoughts. Thank you. Would you say the M3 is well worth it? (as opposed to buying a used M1 or M2) I do pro audio, recording, and video editing, so the more power the better for me. I've got this machine pegged all too often with various VSTs and a high track count. I plan to get one soon, from the Mac store.
 
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