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8800GT dead? What next....

mutto

mutto

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Sep 21, 2010
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Hi,

After using my Mac Pro 3,1 this morning I start to get random black squares appearing on screen the I get system crash. Ok, I try to reboot but now it won't get anywhere past the Apple logo boot screen - the whirly circle stops spinning and then stops. Numerous tries later and the same thing happens.

I can't get it to boot from the CD, I just get a 'you must restart' message.

I've tried all the keyboard combos to get it to boot but it's not having it. I've also reset the PRAM and NVRAM/SMC.

Now I'm guessing that the graphics card is dead, it's a 8800GT that came with the machine but I've got no way of knowing for sure. I've access to another Mac Pro, but it's a 1,1 and I don't think the 8800GT will work in it for testing...?

Without shelling out for a Sapphire 6870 and hoping it is the graphics card that's at fault I don't know what my other options are?

Any advice?
Cheers
Martin
 
With the Nvidia 10.7.3 "magic" drivers, the 8800GT should work in 1,1.

If you are in a previous OS, ATY_INit will do. Just know that it will only fire up when it reaches desktop.

More than likely your 8800GT needs to get some Oven Lovin'

Bad solder. Google "Bake G92 graphics card 8800" and I'll bet you get some info.

If your 1,1 has an ATI card, it could maybe work in 3,1. The X1900 needs rom 202 to work there, 140 won't do. Update via Apple
 
I might give the baking thing a go - sounds fun!
 
MacVidCards said:
With the Nvidia 10.7.3 "magic" drivers, the 8800GT should work in 1,1.

If you are in a previous OS, ATY_INit will do. Just know that it will only fire up when it reaches desktop.

More than likely your 8800GT needs to get some Oven Lovin'

Bad solder. Google "Bake G92 graphics card 8800" and I'll bet you get some info.

If your 1,1 has an ATI card, it could maybe work in 3,1. The X1900 needs rom 202 to work there, 140 won't do. Update via Apple
Click to expand...

10.7.4 breaks the "magic" drivers - you need to run ATY_init again - although I think in the latest Mountain Lion Developer preview they are working again.

I'll update this thread on Thursday as I've a 570GTX on it's way for my 3.1 pro with specific steps and a failure or victory report :)
 
I've put my Hard Drive into a Mac Pro 1,1 to try and rule out that it's not the HD that's the problem, here's an error report on startup:

Interval Since Last Panic Report: 12 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 9C9FAE78-AF47-483C-BB31-352E13041F35

Tue Apr 10 20:56:39 2012
panic(cpu 7 caller 0x2a6ac2): Kernel trap at 0x605dd453, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x000000c0, CR3: 0x21b2e000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x5f8a35c0, EBX: 0x085fcc04, ECX: 0x07355020, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x000000c0, EBP: 0x5f8a35f8, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0xffffffff
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x605dd453, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x07350010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace (CPU 7), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x5f8a3388 : 0x21acfa (0x5ce650 0x5f8a33bc 0x223156 0x0)
0x5f8a33d8 : 0x2a6ac2 (0x590a50 0x605dd453 0xe 0x590c1a)
0x5f8a34b8 : 0x29c968 (0x5f8a34d0 0x3 0x5f8a35f8 0x605dd453)
0x5f8a34c8 : 0x605dd453 (0xe 0x48 0x5f8a0010 0x605e0010)
0x5f8a35f8 : 0x605e38b4 (0xc1d00001 0x1000000 0x1000003 0x40)
0x5f8a3678 : 0x60601398 (0x5f8a3808 0x6 0x0 0x0)
0x5f8a37d8 : 0x60602fc6 (0x0 0x600d600d 0x7027 0x5f8a3808)
0x5f8a38a8 : 0x607b3905 (0xc1d00001 0x1000000 0x1000003 0x40)
0x5f8a38d8 : 0x607c1ca9 (0x470d0000 0x1000000 0x88100090 0x3e)
0x5f8a3938 : 0x607c3acf (0x470d0000 0x1000000 0x15 0x470d001c)
0x5f8a3a48 : 0x605a75a4 (0x470d0000 0x0 0x5f8a3b8a 0x80)
0x5f8a3aa8 : 0x5f723796 (0x866e400 0x0 0x5f8a3b8a 0x80)
0x5f8a3bd8 : 0x5f7207ff (0x866e400 0x8461880 0x5f71e92a 0x866e400)
0x5f8a3c98 : 0x5f76f189 (0x866e400 0x5f774304 0x8875920 0x0)
0x5f8a3d08 : 0x5f76bb98 (0x866e400 0x5f8a3dcc 0x7c3c000 0x4a84e0b3)
0x5f8a3d38 : 0x5330cf (0x866e400 0x7c3c000 0x7c3c000 0x0)
0x5f8a3d88 : 0x563a86 (0x866e400 0x7c3c000 0x7c3c000 0x0)
0x5f8a3de8 : 0x284883 (0x866e400 0x7c3c000 0x0 0x0)
0x5f8a3e58 : 0x21d09c (0x7a03a68 0x7a6c784 0x7a03a6c 0x7a03aa4)
0x5f8a3e98 : 0x210234 (0x7a03a00 0x5f8a3edc 0x7adba40 0x5f8a3ed0)
Backtrace continues...
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.NVDAResman(6.0.0)@0x605a4000->0x60837fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x55c8b000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x5f71c000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5f75e000
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x5f71c000->0x5f729fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5f75e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x55c8b000
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5f75e000->0x5f77bfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x55c8b000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

Mac OS version:
10A432

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.0.0: Fri Jul 31 22:47:34 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1456.1.25~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacPro3,1 (Mac-F42C88C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 78436169545
unloaded kexts:
(none)
loaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.1d8
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelYonahProfile 14
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.0.5
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPenrynProfile 17
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.GeForce 6.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelNehalemProfile 11
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelMeromProfile 19
com.apple.driver.AppleMCEDriver 1.1.9
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0a20
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.4.6
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.SparseDiskImage 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.ReadWriteDiskImage 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.UDIFDiskImage 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.RAMBackingStore 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.HTTPBackingStore 281
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.FileBackingStore 281
com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 1.1.5f1
com.apple.driver.CSRHIDTransitionDriver 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.5.0
com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.5.0
com.apple.BootCache 31
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.AppleIntel8254XEthernet 2.1.1b7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.7.8
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPIIXATA 2.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 90.0.0
com.apple.security.sandbox 0
com.apple.security.quarantine 0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 2.0.11
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 90.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAPlatformDriver 1.7.4a1 - last loaded 75026278486
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction 17
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileThreadInfoAction 14
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileRegisterStateAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileKEventAction 10
com.apple.driver.AppleProfileCallstackAction 20
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 73.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.7.0fc16
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.3
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 6.0.0
com.apple.NVDAResman 6.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.0.3
com.apple.iokit.AppleProfileFamily 40
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 1.7.4a1
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 1.7.4a1
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.0.1d2
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 3.4.0a20
com.apple.driver.DiskImages.KernelBacked 281
com.apple.driver.CSRUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 2.2f18
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 402.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.7.5
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.1.7
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 3.7.8
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 6
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 281
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.3
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.3.0
Model: MacPro1,1, BootROM MP11.005C.B04, 4 processors, Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 2 GB, SMC 1.7f10
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1900 XT, ATY,RadeonX1900, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: global_name
Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
PCI Card: ATY,RadeonX1900, sppci_displaycontroller, Slot-1
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD3200AAJS-41VWA0, 298.09 GB
Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D
USB Device: Hub, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x912f, 0xfd400000 / 2
USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x1003, 0xfd410000 / 4
USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0304, 0xfd411000 / 6
USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x020c, 0xfd413000 / 5
USB Device: Apple Cinema HD Display, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x9221, 0xfd420000 / 3
FireWire Device: built-in_hub, Up to 800 Mb/sec
FireWire Device: unknown_device, Unknown


Is there anything sinister going on in there?

Cheers
Martin
 
Does anyone know if a dead graphics card will prevent OS X from getting to the log in screen?
 
^^^Yes, it could. Did you try safe mode? (Start with Shift pressed).
Bake the 8800 as MVC said. BTW, if it were HDD issue it shouldn't prevent from booting from Install disc.
 
Safe mode doesn't work, booting from the CD just brings up this message......everytime.

Restart-Message.png


Before I try the baking I need to get myself some thermal compound, I'll try it though.
 
Wow! I just baked my 8800GT, it works!!
Thanks for the advice guys, very happy.
 
Glad to hear it. Many a 8800 can be saved from the landfill, at least for awhile, by doing this.

Be sure to keep fan blown out to lengthen time before it needs this again. 8800GT fans clog up and create hot and cold areas, causing this problem with the lead free (brittle) solder.

Very important not to flex the card at all while removing and replacing fan.
 
Well, the 8800GT has lasted 8/9 months since I baked it. I'm surprised it lasted that long!

I've now ordered a GTX 660 2Gb.

I have a Mac Pro 3,1, latest OS and I've installed the NVidia web drivers for the card - is that all I need to get the card running (I except I won't get a boot screen).

Thanks
 
EVGA GTX660 2GB working in 2008 Mac Pro 3,1 2.8 Quad.

:cool:

Very happy.
 
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