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TheFlyingSpaceSider

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Oct 22, 2021
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So I purchased a new 14" Maxed out Macbook Pro and I was looking for a fitting Thunderbolt Dock to go along with it.
Unfortunately I encountered that all available docks have a power delivery of 90w or belong (besindes maybe 2 or 3, which are all sold out)

So in the end I'm unsure if 90w is enough, since the MBP comes with a 96w power adapter.

What would you guys advice me to pick a 90w dock or wait for new 96w docks to become available?

(or do you have any 96w docks you could recommend?)

Edit: Top Choices which are sold out:


 
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usagora

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Could you maybe link to your top choice (even though it's sold out) so we can see exactly what ports you want it to have, etc?
 

joevt

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USB-C power delivery goes up to 100W so 90W isn't bad. Your MBP probably won't be using 90W all the time anyway.

I don't think you want a CalDigit HDMI dock. The dock doesn't have USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode or DisplayPort which have more bandwidth and it doesn't have a downstream Thunderbolt port.

The Plugable has DisplayPort but not USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode or downstream Thunderbolt port.

Maybe consider a Thunderbolt 4 Dock? Most of them have similar design. Here's a small number of them:
https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo11-thunderbolt4-dock/overview.html
https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-dock
https://www.razer.com/gaming-pc-accessories/Razer-Thunderbolt-4-Dock/RC21-01690200-R3U1
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/p...&field_prod_tb_version_value_many_to_one=tbv4

With a Thunderbolt 4 Dock, you get three downstream Thunderbolt 4 ports, any two of them can connect a display - you just need an adapter or cable if your display is not USB-C. For HDMI output, you can choose an adapter instead of being stuck with the adapter that's built into the Plugable or CalDigit docks (some might not support HDR or HDMI 2.1).
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ransfers-recommendation.2278473/post-29466205

Also, all USB ports of a Thunderbolt 4 Dock are 10 Gbps. They share a single 10 Gbps upstream connection though. Only old Thunderbolt 3 docks that only support DisplayPort 1.2 will allow more than 10 Gbps of USB from multiple USB devices connected directly to the dock but it's unlikely you'll want to RAID 0 a couple 10 Gbps storage devices so this doesn't matter. A Thunderbolt 4 hub/dock will probably use USB tunnelling which uses the USB controller of the Mac instead of the USB controller of the Thunderbolt controller - all Thunderbolt 4 devices in the chain will use the same 10 Gbps for USB. You can add more USB bandwidth by adding a Thunderbolt 3 hub/dock/device in the chain (the Thunderbolt 3 controller has a USB controller which appears as a new USB bus in System Information.app)

I am wondering if M1 PRO and M1 MAX will have better USB performance than the original M1 Macs?
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ally-10gb-s-also-definitely-not-usb4.2269777/
 

TheFlyingSpaceSider

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Oct 22, 2021
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USB-C power delivery goes up to 100W so 90W isn't bad. Your MBP probably won't be using 90W all the time anyway.

I don't think you want a CalDigit HDMI dock. The dock doesn't have USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode or DisplayPort which have more bandwidth and it doesn't have a downstream Thunderbolt port.

The Plugable has DisplayPort but not USB-C DisplayPort Alt Mode or downstream Thunderbolt port.

Maybe consider a Thunderbolt 4 Dock? Most of them have similar design. Here's a small number of them:
https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo11-thunderbolt4-dock/overview.html
https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-dock
https://www.razer.com/gaming-pc-accessories/Razer-Thunderbolt-4-Dock/RC21-01690200-R3U1
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/p...&field_prod_tb_version_value_many_to_one=tbv4

With a Thunderbolt 4 Dock, you get three downstream Thunderbolt 4 ports, any two of them can connect a display - you just need an adapter or cable if your display is not USB-C. For HDMI output, you can choose an adapter instead of being stuck with the adapter that's built into the Plugable or CalDigit docks (some might not support HDR or HDMI 2.1).
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ransfers-recommendation.2278473/post-29466205

Also, all USB ports of a Thunderbolt 4 Dock are 10 Gbps. They share a single 10 Gbps upstream connection though. Only old Thunderbolt 3 docks that only support DisplayPort 1.2 will allow more than 10 Gbps of USB from multiple USB devices connected directly to the dock but it's unlikely you'll want to RAID 0 a couple 10 Gbps storage devices so this doesn't matter. A Thunderbolt 4 hub/dock will probably use USB tunnelling which uses the USB controller of the Mac instead of the USB controller of the Thunderbolt controller - all Thunderbolt 4 devices in the chain will use the same 10 Gbps for USB. You can add more USB bandwidth by adding a Thunderbolt 3 hub/dock/device in the chain (the Thunderbolt 3 controller has a USB controller which appears as a new USB bus in System Information.app)

I am wondering if M1 PRO and M1 MAX will have better USB performance than the original M1 Macs?
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ally-10gb-s-also-definitely-not-usb4.2269777/
Oh thanks for your fast reply!

USB C Displayport ALT Mode or a downstream port aren't that important for me, since I plan on using 2 HDMI 1440p 120hz displays anyway.

And about the 90w, it won't be using 90w all the time, but I'm still a little bit hesitant since they are not cheap and I want something that works perfectly together.

Maybe I'll try the razer dock, since I read about the OWC dock that there are external display problems, when waking up from sleep
 
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