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urbZZ

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... from Apple, deliberately not bringing AI to EU. Pretty sure that will backfire Apple! Samsung and Google are already selling AI, whilst Tim Cook is behaving like a child and trying to put pressure on EU Representatives.
To me, as a German user, which is the biggest market in the EU, not even mentioning Germany in the Keynote with AI, is a big letdown. But my anger is leaning towards Apple and surely not the EU regulations, which I consider to be a good thing for customers. And customers know that, Apple, yeah they do!
 

LarsN.

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That’s what I thought yesterday as well. The iPhone 16 is „build from the ground up“ with AI features that are not available in some markets?

I mean the launch of Siri on the iPhone 4S wasn’t available in other languages as well, but it was one feature on an iPhone that had a remarkable new design.

The bigger Apple intelligence is advertised the less sense it makes to upgrade in markets without access.
 
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Flowstates

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From my cursory analysis. It is more of a matter of having to build more compliance into/ as a result of the product than for the other markets. Hence the delay.
 
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Cirillo Gherardo

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But my anger is leaning towards Apple and surely not the EU regulations, which I consider to be a good thing for customers.
Well that's about as irrational as one could possibly be. Don't blame the regulators who have no idea what they're doing and have no real understanding of the things they're regulating ...blame Apple who wants nothing more to be able to sell and push product everywhere they can. If they could, it would be available, or at least on the roadmap to be coming soon.
 

Flowstates

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Well that's about as irrational as one could possibly be. Don't blame the regulators who have no idea what they're doing and have no real understanding of the things they're regulating ...blame Apple who wants nothing more to be able to sell and push product everywhere they can. If they could, it would be available, or at least on the roadmap to be coming soon.

I think that this is a gross mischaracterization of the technical skills of regulators. We are far and away from senators wanting to bandwagon on a little known issue to vicariously entertain their constituency.

Regulation is done by skilled industry veterans. Whether the policy underlying the regulatory frameworks is sound is an other matter.

But don't handwave like that, it cheapens everything to the level of childish nihilism.
 

eltoslightfoot

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I think that this is a gross mischaracterization of the technical skills of regulators. We are far and away from senators wanting to bandwagon on a little known issue to vicariously entertain their constituency.

Regulation is done by skilled industry veterans. Whether the policy underlying the regulatory frameworks is sound is an other matter.

But don't handwave like that, it cheapens everything to the level of childish nihilism.
Then the release won't be delayed much if it is as you say. All they want is confirmation that they aren't making things worse for themselves. And this is how it has to be with these heavily regulated areas going forward.

Or...it could be that there is a level of capriciousness involved and they won't really know what is going to be a problem for the EU and what isn't and it will take a loooooooooong while to get Apple Intelligence there.
 

Flowstates

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Then the release won't be delayed much if it is as you say. All they want is confirmation that they aren't making things worse for themselves. And this is how it has to be with these heavily regulated areas going forward.

Or...it could be that there is a level of capriciousness involved and they won't really know what is going to be a problem for the EU and what isn't and it will take a loooooooooong while to get Apple Intelligence there.

Do you understand the principles of differring compliance standards and the pre requisites now imposed to tech companies operating in the EU.

They litterrally need to build a second set of infrastructure, hence the delay. I personnally think that the set of rules is bad policy, but people need to simmer down with the room temp takes.
 
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dumastudetto

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... from Apple, deliberately not bringing AI to EU. Pretty sure that will backfire Apple! Samsung and Google are already selling AI, whilst Tim Cook is behaving like a child and trying to put pressure on EU Representatives.
To me, as a German user, which is the biggest market in the EU, not even mentioning Germany in the Keynote with AI, is a big letdown. But my anger is leaning towards Apple and surely not the EU regulations, which I consider to be a good thing for customers. And customers know that, Apple, yeah they do!

Google has a half-baked AI product in the EU with various features such as image generation disabled entirely. The AI responses to prompts make it sound like the features you are trying to use are not developed yet, but it’s usually just a regional lock.
 
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