iPad A7 vs A10X

[gobikerider]

If anyone was curious how far Apple has come with their 64bit chip architecture.

A10X 6 Core 2.4Ghz (4th Gen 64bit)
Multicore: 9200
Single Core: 3900
Compute: 29000

A7 2 Core 1.4Ghz (1st Gen 64bit) ~ 18.3x slower
Multicore: 2200 4.1x slower
Single Core: 1300 2.7x slower
Compute: 600 48.3x slower

*data obtained from Geekbench 4 database
*Compute score is the gpu ability to do computational tasks
*data may not be representative of actual performance

 

[shyam09]

One of the first things I'm going to do is put my new 12.9" Pro next to my iPad 3, Mini 3, and Air 2 and do random speed tests.

 

[gobikerider]

One of the first things I'm going to do is put my new 12.9" Pro next to my iPad 3, Mini 3, and Air 2 and do random speed tests.

The poor iPad 3 spare it the embarrassment

 

[Sparky2012]

As I've said before in other threads, Apple are doing some incredible work in terms of performance. I mean it's only 4 years and the CPU and especially the GPU increases are phenomenal.

I had an iPad Air up until last year when I got my 9.7" Pro, and I always felt like it struggled on games and that compute Geekbench shows how poor GPU wise it was, despite at the time being competitive.

 

[44267547]

As I've said before in other threads, Apple are doing some incredible work in terms of performance. I mean it's only 4 years and the CPU and especially the GPU increases are phenomenal.

I had an iPad Air up until last year when I got my 9.7" Pro, and I always felt like it struggled on games and that compute Geekbench shows how poor GPU wise it was, despite at the time being competitive.

I find it impressive how fast in terms of performance newer iPads are to even To more expensive other laptops, which carry a higher price tag. I just purchased a new laptop and these new iPads will likely out perform it. I probably should have waited until after WWDC. Either way, I will still pick up a new iPad.

 

[Sparky2012]

I find it impressive how fast in terms of performance newer iPads are to even To more expensive other laptops, which carry a higher price tag. I just purchased a new laptop and these new iPads will likely out perform it. I probably should have waited until after WWDC. Either way, I will still pick up a new iPad.

Oh definitely, performance is catching up or even surpassing laptops now on an iPad which is just crazy. Intel should be increasingly worried at how close the A10X is getting to their single-core performance and in general their i7 chips. As for GPU, it won't be long until the iPad is outperforming the Nvidia GT 750m in this MBP I'm typing on! I do believe seeing that with the A9X, we passed the Xbox 360 in terms of raw performance in gigaflops which amazed me. It'll be interesting to see how many gigaflops the A10X produces. Long may Apple's performance gains continue! Their chip team are truly shaking up the industry.

 

[gobikerider]

Oh definitely, performance is catching up or even surpassing laptops now on an iPad which is just crazy. Intel should be increasingly worried at how close the A10X is getting to their single-core performance and in general their i7 chips. As for GPU, it won't be long until the iPad is outperforming the Nvidia GT 750m in this MBP I'm typing on! I do believe seeing that with the A9X, we passed the Xbox 360 in terms of raw performance in gigaflops which amazed me. It'll be interesting to see how many gigaflops the A10X produces. Long may Apple's performance gains continue! Their chip team are truly shaking up the industry.

The A10X already has single core performance better then skylake chips found in the 13inch MacBook Pro from 6 months ago.
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I find it impressive how fast in terms of performance newer iPads are to even To more expensive other laptops, which carry a higher price tag. I just purchased a new laptop and these new iPads will likely out perform it. I probably should have waited until after WWDC. Either way, I will still pick up a new iPad.

What laptop did you purchase?

 

[Sparky2012]

The A10X already has single core performance better then skylake chips found in the 13inch MacBook Pro from 6 months ago.

Yep, I know. I was meaning that Intel should be worried about the A10X and newer reaching their desktop i7 single-core performance. I did see a post showing how close the A10X is to a 2012 iMac with an i7 on single-core. Think the A10X was around 200 off.

EDIT: Actually we are beating a Desktop class i7 processor from the 2012 iMac despite it being clocked at 3.4GHz vs the A10X 2.4GHz haha.

 

[gobikerider]

Yep, I know. I was meaning that Intel should be worried about the A10X and newer reaching their desktop i7 single-core performance. I did see a post showing how close the A10X is to a 2012 iMac with an i7 on single-core. Think the A10X was around 200 off.

EDIT: Actually we are beating a Desktop class i7 processor from the 2012 iMac despite it being clocked at 3.4GHz vs the A10X 2.4GHz haha.

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Hah that's practically magical considering the power usage difference bewtween the two.

 

[44267547]

What laptop did you purchase?

2016 MacBook Pro. I like it. But these new iPads are going to draw me away from using it. However, my laptop will still serve for its purposes for when I need it.

 

[gobikerider]

2016 MacBook Pro. I like it. But these new iPads are going to draw me away from using it. However, my laptop will still serve for its purposes for when I need it.

Nice btw the first 4k game for iPad was just unveiled
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2016 MacBook Pro. I like it. But these new iPads are going to draw me away from using it. However, my laptop will still serve for its purposes for when I need it.

Its Minecraft

 

[0lf]

Oh definitely, performance is catching up or even surpassing laptops now on an iPad which is just crazy. Intel should be increasingly worried at how close the A10X is getting to their single-core performance and in general their i7 chips.

That said, intel next milestones could be significant :
- coffee lake with core number increase,
- cannon lake with new 10nm process,
- ice lake with new architecture

 

[gobikerider]

That said, intel next milestones could be significant :
- coffee lake with core number increase,
- cannon lake with new 10nm process,
- ice lake with new architecture

I know but can we just enjoy the brief moment when iPad's outperfom intel high end pc and macbooks

 

[0lf]

 

[AMJ7E]

That said, intel next milestones could be significant :
- coffee lake with core number increase,
- cannon lake with new 10nm process,
- ice lake with new architecture

Cannon Lake/Ice Lake would be happening at best one/two years from now , apple probably will keep up with the two core i5s (given how much they are growing their CPU's performance).
The interesting thing for me is the possibility of using ARM based cpus in mac. The A10X's ( a "lowpower" fanless cpu) single core score catches my macbook pro (Late 2015) and destroys it in multicore score. Considering the fact that my laptop is using a CPU with 20+ wattage usage and an air-cooled thermal management , thats just freaking mind blowing.
I guess there will be a coding mess on developers hand , but its worth it. Microsoft is getting on it with arm cpus , so should apple (more seriously).
I feel Intel has been screwing us for the past decade...

 

[macduke]

The poor iPad 3 spare it the embarrassment

Yeah, the iPad 3 was really the worst of all the iPads. It got the retina display, but didn't really get the speed boost to cope with it, and was replaced within 6 months.

I do believe seeing that with the A9X, we passed the Xbox 360 in terms of raw performance in gigaflops which amazed me. It'll be interesting to see how many gigaflops the A10X produces.

From what I've seen in the performance charts on Ars Technica, it's a bit faster than the Intel Iris 540 graphics found in the late 2016 13" MBP. Doing some rough math that approximates increases in framerate for increases in GFLOPs given the number of GFLOPs in the 540 (806), it should be around 983 GFLOPs, which is just nasty. Put another way, about twice as powerful as the Nintendo Switch when docked. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Maybe we can finally get some current-gen AAA console games now that use the controller.

 

[epca12]

Very impressive scores, especially graphics. I would like to see Apple make graphics for Macbook now

 

[TallManNY]

Yeah, the iPad 3 was really the worst of all the iPads. It got the retina display, but didn't really get the speed boost to cope with it, and was replaced within 6 months.

From what I've seen in the performance charts on Ars Technica, it's a bit faster than the Intel Iris 540 graphics found in the late 2016 13" MBP. Doing some rough math that approximates increases in framerate for increases in GFLOPs given the number of GFLOPs in the 540 (806), it should be around 983 GFLOPs, which is just nasty. Put another way, about twice as powerful as the Nintendo Switch when docked. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Maybe we can finally get some current-gen AAA console games now that use the controller.

It is nasty. But it also costs a good deal more than the Switch. And it comes with a lot less stuff (those controls for the Switch are probably not cheap to make).

But yes it is too bad we don't get real AAA games. But there just isn't enough storage room on the iPads to really get a lot of games on them.

 

[macduke]

It is nasty. But it also costs a good deal more than the Switch. And it comes with a lot less stuff (those controls for the Switch are probably not cheap to make).

But yes it is too bad we don't get real AAA games. But there just isn't enough storage room on the iPads to really get a lot of games on them.

Well, to be fair my new iPad Pro, which should be arriving any minute now as I anxiously wait here in my living room, has eight times the storage of the Switch, and is configurable to more storage than the Xbox One shipped with. The real problem is the App Store's race to the bottom pricing and freemium taking over everywhere. My wish for 2018 is that we see a massive decline in freemium sales as people finally get bored with it. But with more and more companies hiring psychologists to hook people onto their digital crack button pressing apps, I doubt it will change anytime soon.

 

[ShaunAFC3]

Nice btw the first 4k game for iPad was just unveiled.

What game is it?? I would like to know....

 

[TallManNY]

Well, to be fair my new iPad Pro, which should be arriving any minute now as I anxiously wait here in my living room, has eight times the storage of the Switch, and is configurable to more storage than the Xbox One shipped with. The real problem is the App Store's race to the bottom pricing and freemium taking over everywhere. My wish for 2018 is that we see a massive decline in freemium sales as people finally get bored with it. But with more and more companies hiring psychologists to hook people onto their digital crack button pressing apps, I doubt it will change anytime soon.

Yep that is the problem. And when Nintendo gets yelled at by the media for releasing Mario Run for $10 but is lauded throughout the land for the Switch and Zelda (which is a masterpiece of gaming), the inclination is go with the console and not get into the App store.

 

[d5aqoëp]

Yep that is the problem. And when Nintendo gets yelled at by the media for releasing Mario Run for $10 but is lauded throughout the land for the Switch and Zelda (which is a masterpiece of gaming), the inclination is go with the console and not get into the App store.

Mario Run was a crap game with the sole intention of grabbing money. But Zelda was made with passion. This shows that passionately made games will always trump freemium made soulless games.
These days, I automatically ignore any free games. My eyes go on games which have upfront price of 3-5 USD on the App Store.

 

[gobikerider]

What game is it?? I would like to know....

Mine craft

 

[TallManNY]

Mario Run was a crap game with the sole intention of grabbing money. But Zelda was made with passion. This shows that passionately made games will always trump freemium made soulless games.
These days, I automatically ignore any free games. My eyes go on games which have upfront price of 3-5 USD on the App Store.

Well I liked Mario Run.
But I agree with you, I pretty much never download a freemium game. I'm glad free games are sorted into a different list so that I can easily ignore them.