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d5aqoëp

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I was excited by this app and thought that finally I would be able to drag and drop any of my files from Windows PC to my iPad connected by USB into "On My iPad" folder. But I was unable to do it.

So we cannot use our oversized 256 GB and now 512 GB iDevices as plain dumb Pen Drives?

I read about everywhere and the descriptions at imore and other sites made me feel that this Files App is making simple things more difficult. Am I missing something?
 

masands

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Sep 17, 2010
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Everybody is getting excited about this app but it's just another Documents by Readdle.

You cannot do basic things like:
- Download something from Safari to Files.
- You cannot manipulate a single file across multiple apps. For example, iOS still needs to create duplicate versions of a photo if you are opening them in different apps.
- Set a default "Open In" etc

So and so forth. It's just a file picker rather access to the file system.
 
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d5aqoëp

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Feb 9, 2016
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Everybody is getting excited about this app but it's just another Documents by Readdle.

You cannot do basic things like:
- Download something from Safari to Files.
- You cannot manipulate a single file across multiple apps. For example, iOS still needs to create duplicate versions of a photo if you are opening them in different apps.
- Set a default "Open In" etc

So and so forth. It's just a file picker rather access to the file system.
Thought so. Why does Apple take the efforts to even develop such apps is beyond me. In it's current form, it looks like a hobby project of some newly recruited Apple's intern.
 

myname70

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Files for iOS show location - my iPhone - but there are no files, nor option to create new folder etc. I can use only the cloud locations.
 

Juto1507

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Dec 28, 2016
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Let’s wait until finished version of ios11 will be there to judge how functional\unfoncional it is....it’s beginning of new era and approach towards iPad line and after 2 days of using of ios 11 on iPP 12.9 I absolutely love it ......so let’s be patient and happy for what they added instead of bashing and criticizing again.
 

GreyOS

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I've not looked in depth but my impression is this is just an aggregated file viewer, pulling together from multiple sources, both in the cloud and offline/local, based on apps you have installed. It will still require other apps to use interoperability APIs rather than really exposing any true file system. Perhaps it will work on existing file APIs in place.
 

AppleTree

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Jan 28, 2008
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Everybody is getting excited about this app but it's just another Documents by Readdle.

You cannot do basic things like:
- Download something from Safari to Files.
- You cannot manipulate a single file across multiple apps. For example, iOS still needs to create duplicate versions of a photo if you are opening them in different apps.
- Set a default "Open In" etc

So and so forth. It's just a file picker rather access to the file system.

Ok, knowing this, this is almost useless for productivity and almost counterproductive in terms of managing multiple clones of files across different app containers.

Just one question, does safari at least show download progress when downloading a file?
 
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Chucky666UK

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May 17, 2008
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This is one feature I was most excited about when they showed files in the keynote. I was hoping to download files (pdf) straight from Safari onto my iPad and open it using files. This functionality is what would make the iPad closer to using a laptop for me. Not the case (yet?). So I don't get it when people say they are ready to ditch their MacBooks etc. I mean, really?
 

007p

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Let’s wait until finished version of ios11 will be there to judge how functional\unfoncional it is....it’s beginning of new era and approach towards iPad line and after 2 days of using of ios 11 on iPP 12.9 I absolutely love it ......so let’s be patient and happy for what they added instead of bashing and criticizing again.

I'd argue now is the time to submit feedback on it while they are still developing. Why wait for the finished version to complain about lack of features when we have two-three months now to urge them to do the right thing?
 
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sers

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This is one of the reasons why I dumped my iPad. I loved using it for most of the time, but when it came to file management - forget it. I didn't have a desktop computer to manage files on my external hard drive so I plugged it into a router and accessed it through the network. It worked for managing a limited number of small files, but if you had to do a backup or manage large amounts of files, or do another backup of the external hard drive, forget it. The iPad just wasn't up to the task. File management on the iPad works if you've bought all your music, movies and manage your photos with Apple and pay for the extra storage, or if all your files are in cloud storage, but I had an extensive music and movie library burned from CDs and DVDs that I had to backup. Also, managing photos without iCloud on the iPad is a nightmare. Duplicates galore. Not everyone wants to store their photos on cloud storage.

The iPad was clearly meant to be used with cloud storage and people should be aware of this limitation before buying. In the end, I got frustrated with the workflow and am tired of giving my money to Apple to pay for storage, iTunes match, etc. I want total control of what files I can manage and where I store them.

I think this new File App will disappoint a lot of people. It's still sandboxed and people expecting to hook up an external USB stick or hard drive, or drag and drop files by hooking it up to a computer, will be let down. People wanting to do this will need to turn to Android or Windows. If Apple opens it up a bit and extends the functionality of the File App, then I may be tempted to get another iPad, but for now I've switch to Windows to do this work.
 

DaveOP

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May 29, 2011
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Thought so. Why does Apple take the efforts to even develop such apps is beyond me. In it's current form, it looks like a hobby project of some newly recruited Apple's intern.
Or, an important first step. They are letting you aggregate files from all these sources, create folder structure, and save them locally so an iCloud connection is not needed. This is step 1...in developer preview 1 to be fair.
 

ardchoille50

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Much stress and complaints could be alleviated if we simply use a device the way it is made to be used instead of trying to force it into our way of thinking. If it works for you, then use it. If it doesn't work for you, then use something else. Focus on what matters, not what angers.
 
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