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iPad Air Airpad Air A14 Bionic loses to Snapdragon 865 by huge margin
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I did not watch the video as I am not really interested in performance comparisons. I dont own A14 but I own A12X device ( 2018 iPad Pro ) which has a comparible performance and a Snapdragon 865 device ( Samsung S20 ) and in none of them I can see cluttering, lag, speed issues. So as long as the speed is faster than the things I do, I do not care which one is faster. It is like having two cars which goes 460 km/h whereas all you can do legally is 130 km/h. ?
Having said that, I liked the name Airpad ?
EDIT: I couldn’t resist and I watched the video a bit in fast forward. So he was exporting two 4k videos in both devices (assuming it was the same) and the V60 did it faster right? I have no idea if what I am saying is true but it could also be that the app on the V60 may be was a better optimized app even tho Luma Fusion is fantastic. Or may be the export speed on that app is faster than Luma Fusion. What I mean is that, since they did not use the same app on both devices, the difference that we see on the video could not be very precise. May be LumaFusion is the better optimized one and the iPad Air 4 is even slower? Who knows? It could be any one of the above.
Having said that, I liked the name Airpad ?
EDIT: I couldn’t resist and I watched the video a bit in fast forward. So he was exporting two 4k videos in both devices (assuming it was the same) and the V60 did it faster right? I have no idea if what I am saying is true but it could also be that the app on the V60 may be was a better optimized app even tho Luma Fusion is fantastic. Or may be the export speed on that app is faster than Luma Fusion. What I mean is that, since they did not use the same app on both devices, the difference that we see on the video could not be very precise. May be LumaFusion is the better optimized one and the iPad Air 4 is even slower? Who knows? It could be any one of the above.
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do those graph results translates to real time useage proportionally to the results? It does not depend on how well certain apps are optimized on the systems..etc?
Not meaning that LumaFusion is not well optimized as it is an amazing app, I am using it too, I was just curious sincerely.
Also, I did not pay attention well enough but this could also depend on the export settings? I mean, apart then 4k option, there are other settings about the quality, bitrate..etc which could effect the result.
Not meaning that LumaFusion is not well optimized as it is an amazing app, I am using it too, I was just curious sincerely.
Also, I did not pay attention well enough but this could also depend on the export settings? I mean, apart then 4k option, there are other settings about the quality, bitrate..etc which could effect the result.
Both were set at 4k 60fps High. Look closely. Seems like A14 is processing each second in 2 seconds, while snapdragon in 1.5 seconds. That's ~50% faster in video rendering. A14 has 11 TOPS peak performance, while snapdragon 865 is advertised as 15 TOPS. Could be this explanation?
Problem wth comparing different apps is that you don't get the same results. Not even in the same OS, let alone on 2 different ones. A couple of years ago, Techtablets compared the Galaxy Tab s6 and the Ipad pro 2018 and the tab s6 (running SD855) was faster to export video on Power Director than iPad pro with lumafusion. And mind you, A12X is slightly faster than A14 in lumafusion because lumafusion makes use of the additional cores.
Does it mean the 865 or 855 are faster than A12X or A14? No, it means that some apps can do some tasks faster.
Another example.
In another video a guy compared opening the same apps on the Galaxy Tab S7 (SD865+) and on the iPad pro (I think it was the 2020 one) and the Samsung tablet won almost all the time. Does it mean 865+ is faster? No, on benchmarks it's actually slower than the A12 in the basic iPad. But it's faster to open Android apps...
People are very focused on benchmarks but the reality is that each app and each OS is different. I would not use my Tab S7+ for video editing, because I much prefer lumafusion, even if some (worse) Android apps are faster.
Also processor speed, while nice to brag about, especially for fanboys of each side, is not that important past a certain level. A14X will not change things that much on the iPad pro. More RAM could, by allowing to keep more apps open or using more features in pro apps. And, above all, improvements to ipadOS and its apps will make the real difference (full external monitor support, more pro apps, better multitasking, better file management). Processor speed is not a bottleneck and additional speed will not make much difference for the foreseable future... So, honestly, who cares if the 865 beat the A14 at some things...
Does it mean the 865 or 855 are faster than A12X or A14? No, it means that some apps can do some tasks faster.
Another example.
In another video a guy compared opening the same apps on the Galaxy Tab S7 (SD865+) and on the iPad pro (I think it was the 2020 one) and the Samsung tablet won almost all the time. Does it mean 865+ is faster? No, on benchmarks it's actually slower than the A12 in the basic iPad. But it's faster to open Android apps...
People are very focused on benchmarks but the reality is that each app and each OS is different. I would not use my Tab S7+ for video editing, because I much prefer lumafusion, even if some (worse) Android apps are faster.
Also processor speed, while nice to brag about, especially for fanboys of each side, is not that important past a certain level. A14X will not change things that much on the iPad pro. More RAM could, by allowing to keep more apps open or using more features in pro apps. And, above all, improvements to ipadOS and its apps will make the real difference (full external monitor support, more pro apps, better multitasking, better file management). Processor speed is not a bottleneck and additional speed will not make much difference for the foreseable future... So, honestly, who cares if the 865 beat the A14 at some things...
I agree with this. This sort of comparison does not make sense to be used for judging CPU efficiency or speed. It can be used only as a comparison in terms of user experience.
Yep and this would be more about opening apps in iOS and Android than about the specific chipset.
Benchmarks in general are overrated IMO. I cannot relate benchmarks to real life experience.
Yes, for me user workflow and yes (more RAM) matter more than the CPU speed. We are at a point where the slightly better chipset in each new model would not matter that much to us. Now, yes, maybe for some computational photography but then let's discuss user experience and performance when it comes to photography and not use benchmarks to make decisions.
I have regular iPad 6th gen and trust me I am never upset with slow CPU (A10). I get bothered by constantly reloading apps, safari tabs and even apps crashing (just 2 GB RAM). I can tell you right away - do not care about the next powerful CPU, care about more RAM though.
And lastly nowadays mobile devices are less restricted by CPU and more about RAM and OS capabilities IMO.