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jcmoney10

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i just got mine this afternoon, and I'm curious if anyone else is getting a slight headache/ear pain? I probably used them for an hour at a very low volume, and I noticed right away I was starting to get a slight headache. I took them off for a few hours to see if my headache would go away, and it eventually did. I tried using them again, and I could feel after a few minutes my ears getting sore.

I'm hoping this is just an issue with the Airpods being just a little bigger or heavier than what I'm used to, and not me having an issue with Bluetooth devices in general.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
 

bibigon

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I've had this issue too. Do you normally use in-ear earbuds (i.e., the kind you jam in as deep as humanly possible)?

So far, the best bet I've had is to put them in not as deep into my ear as feels necessary for stability.
 

jcmoney10

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I've had this issue too. Do you normally use in-ear earbuds (i.e., the kind you jam in as deep as humanly possible)?

So far, the best bet I've had is to put them in not as deep into my ear as feels necessary for stability.

I normally use the Apple EarPods, and don't have any issues. I figured the Airpods would be similar enough that it wouldn't give me any issue.

I will say that I have a pair of Bluetooth noise cancelling earphones that I use when playing PlayStation that give me a similar feeling after a few hours of use. With these I always figured that it was because they fit a little snug around my head, and it was the squeezing that was causing my headache.

I guess I'll try and not put them as far in and see if that helps.
 

lord e55ex

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I've had this issue too. Do you normally use in-ear earbuds (i.e., the kind you jam in as deep as humanly possible)?

So far, the best bet I've had is to put them in not as deep into my ear as feels necessary for stability.

I normally use a cheap pair of Panasonic in-ear earphones for an hour or two every day. I have had the AirPods since launch and sometimes I feel like a headache sort of sensation as well. Could be completely unrelated, or perhaps I have the volume too high..... ?
 

ag29

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Maybe you're wearing them wrong (As in they're crammed too deep into your ear) or you just need give it a week or so to get used to them. It's a possibility they may just not be for you, which in that case there are plenty of other headphones you can try.
 

MathersMahmood

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i just got mine this afternoon, and I'm curious if anyone else is getting a slight headache/ear pain? I probably used them for an hour at a very low volume, and I noticed right away I was starting to get a slight headache. I took them off for a few hours to see if my headache would go away, and it eventually did. I tried using them again, and I could feel after a few minutes my ears getting sore.

I'm hoping this is just an issue with the Airpods being just a little bigger or heavier than what I'm used to, and not me having an issue with Bluetooth devices in general.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

I have. Do you think it's the Bluetooth radiation or something?
 

jcmoney10

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I have. Do you think it's the Bluetooth radiation or something?
I'm not entirely sure what's going on. I can't tell if it's because they are slightly bigger, or because I apparently started to get a head cold the same day they came in (fingers crossed that's all it is).

The hypochondriac in me worries that it might be the radiation, but after seeing a lot of the research that's been done saying that cellphones are safe (compared to the few studies that say it MIGHT not be safe), I figure Bluetooth is even safer.

I'm going to hold onto them for a while longer and continue to test them and see how things go. Hopefully things start to normalize because I think they are freakin awesome!
 
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hubieonekanubie

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I'm not entirely sure what's going on. I can't tell if it's because they are slightly bigger, or because I apparently started to get a head cold the same day they came in (fingers crossed that's all it is).

The hypochondriac in me worries that it might be the radiation, but after seeing a lot of the research that's been done saying that cellphones are safe (compared to the few studies that say it MIGHT not be safe), I figure Bluetooth is even safer.

I'm going to hold onto them for a while longer and continue to test them and see how things go. Hopefully things start to normalize because I think they are freakin awesome!
man, I hope it's not Bluetooth radiation. I may look into getting a radiation detector to be safe.
 
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jcmoney10

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man, I hope it's not Bluetooth radiation. I may look into getting a radiation detector to be safe.

Yea like I said, most research suggest that they are perfectly safe, but there are a few studies that question the safety even at such low radiation levels. If you do get a detector, make sure to report back with your findings.
 

hubieonekanubie

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Yea like I said, most research suggest that they are perfectly safe, but there are a few studies that question the safety even at such low radiation levels. If you do get a detector, make sure to report back with your findings.
Ok, will do. May try to find one of those exposure meters like X-ray techs wear and keep it close to my ears.
 

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I normally use a cheap pair of Panasonic in-ear earphones for an hour or two every day. I have had the AirPods since launch and sometimes I feel like a headache sort of sensation as well. Could be completely unrelated, or perhaps I have the volume too high..... ?
Maybe it's the radio transmitter
 

teidon

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I'm going to try to find something specific to bluetooth radiation exposure.
That might be difficult because pretty much every consumer wireless device (WiFi, Bluetooth, ...) uses 2.4GHz. So if you have a device that tells you the exposure to that kind radiation, you must make sure that no such device is around you (other than your AirPods of course). Also you must avoid using microwave ovens and some other devices like USB hard-drives that also happen to radiate 2.4GHz frequencies.
 

AppleRobert

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I feel no pain or anything, I cannot really tell that they are in my ears half the time. We all are different so it may affect some while not others. I do not recall folks ever really bringing up the issue with the EarPods to tell the truth.

I would not say mine are wedged in for the need of having to keep adjusting them because they are too loose and may fall out. The EarPods I felt the need to, damn wires caused that more than likely.
 
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hubieonekanubie

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That might be difficult because pretty much every consumer wireless device (WiFi, Bluetooth, ...) uses 2.4GHz. So if you have a device that tells you the exposure to that kind radiation, you must make sure that no such device is around you (other than your AirPods of course). Also you must avoid using microwave ovens and some other devices like USB hard-drives that also happen to radiate 2.4GHz frequencies.
I think C.E.R.N. is working on something specific to Bluetooth, not sure though.
 

glenohumeral

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Yea like I said, most research suggest that they are perfectly safe, but there are a few studies that question the safety even at such low radiation levels. If you do get a detector, make sure to report back with your findings.

Bluetooth headphones may have lower emitting power but it does it in pulsating manner. Which, according to researcher at UC Berkeley, has greater effect at disrupting your Brain Blood Barrier (BBB). Im a med student and I did a extensive research into this. If it does indeed disrupt your BBB, it may explain your headache because BBB normally keeps toxin away from yout brain.

Food for thought.
 
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caligurl

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Well crap! Twice now that I've worn these for a phone call I've gotten a headache from them. Today I had to take them out and put my LGs back in in order to stay on the phone!

I don't know if it's related by I hear some noise when they are talking... some feedback that I don't hear with the LGs or if I have the the plug in EarPods.
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I normally use the Apple EarPods, and don't have any issues. I figured the Airpods would be similar enough that it wouldn't give me any issue.

I will say that I have a pair of Bluetooth noise cancelling earphones that I use when playing PlayStation that give me a similar feeling after a few hours of use. With these I always figured that it was because they fit a little snug around my head, and it was the squeezing that was causing my headache.

I guess I'll try and not put them as far in and see if that helps.

i wear EarPods at work all the time with no issues. wear wireless LGs at home sometimes for a few hours at a time listening to music and always when on the phone cuz i hate to hold the phone! never any issues!

i'm going to give them a bit more time cuz i really want to keep them! i love the idea of them... i've got 45 days to return them to best buy.....
 
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kis

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I've decided to auction mine off before even openen them due to concerns with the TX power level these things use. I use Bluetooth devices, including headphones, all the time and I'm not worried the least bit about those - but these things use BT class 2 or 3, which means the transmit power is at 10 or 1mw max respectively - which is, indeed, very low and almost not measurable on SAR measuring devices.

However, Apple in their infinite wisdom have decided to make the W1 chip that's in the Airpods (and some Beats cans) a Bluetooth class 1 device. Class 1 devices can transmit at up to 100mw - so the Airpods potentially output an EM field that's up to 100x stronger than that of a regular bluetooth headset. To put this into perspective: 100mw is what a WiFi access point uses - and nobody in his right mind would put one of these on each side of the head for hours a day. A regular phone on the LTE network transmits at 125mw - not much difference there, either.

I fail to see the reasoning behind this move - nobody needs bluetooth earbuds that have a range of close to 70 meters. Apple also doesn't give us RF exposure info and guidlines for the Airpods, which is weird, as every other device all the way down to the Apple Watch is listed on their RF page.

According to the FCC filing for the Airpods (https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3118442), the SAR rating for these is 0.466 - which is nearly double that of, say, a Google Pixel XL phone.

I buy bluetooth headsets to lower the RF exposure I get from my phone for crying out loud, not to increase it.

Anyway, I believe that would explain the headaches some people seem to get from them.
 
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Lucifer666

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Apple in their infinite wisdom have decided to make the W1 chip that's in the Airpods (and some Beats cans) a Bluetooth class 1 device. Class 1 devices can transmit at up to 100mw - so the Airpods potentially output an EM field that's up to 100x stronger than that of a regular bluetooth headset. .

Your going to get both sides of this. Either your going to worry or your not. Nothing said here will make a difference, as you can find evidence for both sides on the internet. What's real, valid, or just crazy is anyones guess.
 
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