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JonMPLS

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OK, just transferred to my new 15 Max Pro (which I really like, by the way), only to find that my good old password manager "SplashID" is no longer available, at least in the US market. So now I have the laborious task of transferring to a new one. Thinking 1Password or NordPass. I use Keychain for general websites, but not for financial sites.

I know SplashID is old school, but I liked the fact that the passwords were not in the cloud, they were all on my local devices only.
 

macher

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OK, just transferred to my new 15 Max Pro (which I really like, by the way), only to find that my good old password manager "SplashID" is no longer available, at least in the US market. So now I have the laborious task of transferring to a new one. Thinking 1Password or NordPass. I use Keychain for general websites, but not for financial sites.

I know SplashID is old school, but I liked the fact that the passwords were not in the cloud, they were all on my local devices only.

Why not use integrated password?
 

Bigwaff

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No stake in the outcome or choice made… just curious. What is the reticence to store the vault in vendor cloud? As I understand, the vault is encrypted in such a way that the vendor can not decrypt, so it is secure. Is the concern that you simply don’t have access to the raw vault file(s) themselves? I have yet to come across a password manager that doesn’t let one export the data.
 

Apple_Robert

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No stake in the outcome or choice made… just curious. What is the reticence to store the vault in vendor cloud? As I understand, the vault is encrypted in such a way that the vendor can not decrypt, so it is secure. Is the concern that you simply don’t have access to the raw vault file(s) themselves? I have yet to come across a password manager that doesn’t let one export the data.
I am not strictly opposed 100% in every case with Cloud password storage but, I don't like the feeling of knowing that if Cloud vendor goes down or gets hacked by some flaw or employee error or misconduct, data can be vulnerable. I prefer to be responsible for my own sensitive data control whenever possible. If one is going to use Cloud storage, I think it best to use something like Cryptomator to better secure the contents of very sensitive data.

You are correct that most password managers offer export ability. However, sometimes, the export can be propriety and or not in a read readable format that doesn't take a lot of editing to import elsewhere.
 
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Rigby

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I know SplashID is old school, but I liked the fact that the passwords were not in the cloud, they were all on my local devices only.
I too prefer to be in control of where my password database is stored.

I strongly recommend to switch to the Keepass database format. It's an open standard that has been adopted by several apps on all major platforms. On iOS I recommend Strongbox. It's open source and very actively developed (e.g. they just added support for storing passkeys). They also have a Mac version, but you can also use the free and open source KeepassXC, which is available for MacOS, Windows and Linux.
 

Apple_Robert

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That's an interesting variant. Backups only for real backups or for separation of content?
I have the 2 backups in case I can’t get into Strongbox for some reason, and the same reason applies for me having a backup plan for my backup password managers. Overkill to be sure but, I believe in being prepared just in case.
 

bsmr

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I have the 2 backups in case I can’t get into Strongbox for some reason
All local, or do you sync Strongbox with iCloud or something else? Thinking about how reliable it is...
One downside I found is, that I cannot create new entries on the fly with macOS and Strongbox. Working only via iOS (creating a new entry from a website).
 
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