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christiann

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HELP! All of a sudden web browsing and download speeds take so long on my Mac. I would be able to download something of 4GB in one minute, And now a 3GB OS takes 45 minutes. Web browsing takes FOREVER. Could it be my VPN+Firewall called Windscribe? It’s a 2011 Mac Mini and I just set it up a week ago, Only 20 GB used. I have no idea what happened, what do I do? It’s using a very high speed WiFi that is lightning fast on every other device. Also YouTube videos are bad quality now. What do I do?

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r6mile

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I would do ethernet but the router is downstairs and I am upstairs. It was speedy two days ago and now it is soooo slow

I would plug it in just to test it. If everything is back to normal on ethernet, then you know you either have a WiFi hardware or software/incompatibility issue.
 

casperes1996

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Since you're asking if it's your VPN; Why not try and check without? You can option click the wi-fi icon in the menu bar to get a more detailed view of the connection, including noise, the connected channel and frequency.

Why do you use a VPN in the first place?
 
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christiann

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I would plug it in just to test it. If everything is back to normal on ethernet, then you know you either have a WiFi hardware or software/incompatibility issue.

Someone on apple support communities said


You’ve shut off all security.



You’re also running Torrent software.



That can be problematic.



That’s one of the better ways to acquire malware, for some folks.



Cracked and torrented apps can be malware-infested; the crack isn’t the limit of the changes.



You’re short in memory and with a slow hard disk. Hard disks are slow. 5400 is slow, for a hard disk.



Various add-on VPN clients can be a security risk, not a security benefit.



I’d get a backup. Now. If you don’t already have one.



Run Apple Hardware Test, maybe DriveDx. See if the HDD is failing.”

I said



Yeah, someone put a torrent file on the mac before I got it. I got the Mac Mini from someone. Apparently it’s the sims 4.



What I do know is that I have never disabled SIP. So Idk why it’s disabled.



I just got it a couple days ago, so why would this happen?



And isnt 8GB a lot of RAM?

0 errors, 100% Smart status DRIVEDX. Uh, my VPN Firewall says it will slow down or shut off internet..... what? Also I got my VPN because it was recommended by friends. It’s been blocking all ADS. Do I have to run csrutil enable?”
 

casperes1996

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0 errors, 100% Smart status DRIVEDX. Uh, my VPN Firewall says it will slow down or shut off internet..... what? Also I got my VPN because it was recommended by friends. It’s been blocking all ADS. Do I have to run csrutil enable?”

To be honest; Don't listen too much to random people on the Apple Support pages. While there are also people on here that might lead you down the wrong path, Apple's Community Support Pages (i.e. the ones not made by Apple themselves) are generally less useful than these forums in my opinion, and some of the advice in the post you made there is definitely just leading you down wrong paths, like worrying about memory and disk speed. While these can be limitations to networking speed, a 5400RPM hard drive would not limit your networking speed unless your network is at least 560Mbps; And that's with a pretty full and fragmented drive. And unless you're very memory starved due to running a billion apps, your RAM shouldn't be causing this either. I also doubt you have malware, but if you got the Mac from someone else you probably should've erased it entirely when you got it, but let's leave all that aside because you've already said the network speed was higher a few days ago.

Yes, you should run csrutil enable in Recovery mode. I would advice just getting an adblocker extension or finding another solution than a VPN. With a VPN all your network traffic goes through a server the could be halfway across the world before going to its destination. A server that could be keeping logs on everything you do as well. VPNs have their place, but I'd personally never connect to any VPN that isn't my university network, something I have control over, future employer network for a very specific temporary purpose like CTF challenges. It could very well be slowing down your networking to be connected to a VPN since in addition to your own connection and the additional latency of connecting to another server, that server's speed is also a factor and it could be handling other computers as well.

Other ad-blocking solutions that live either as a browser extension or on your network can stop the connection to adservers from being attempted which will improve browsing speed on heavily ad-filled sites, in contrast to your VPN that will even in optimal circumstances, inevitably, be a slowdown, even if it isn't the cause of your current extreme slowdown.
But I would also advice allowing ads on pages you enjoy, since it helps the sites stay open for business. Either that, or when possible send them a buck or two to offset the lack of ad revenue.

Should you desire an adblocker they're available both from the App Store and various places on the web. uBlock Origin, NoTrack, many options
 
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christiann

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To be honest; Don't listen too much to random people on the Apple Support pages. While there are also people on here that might lead you down the wrong path, Apple's Community Support Pages (i.e. the ones not made by Apple themselves) are generally less useful than these forums in my opinion, and some of the advice in the post you made there is definitely just leading you down wrong paths, like worrying about memory and disk speed. While these can be limitations to networking speed, a 5400RPM hard drive would not limit your networking speed unless your network is at least 560Mbps; And that's with a pretty full and fragmented drive. And unless you're very memory starved due to running a billion apps, your RAM shouldn't be causing this either. I also doubt you have malware, but if you got the Mac from someone else you probably should've erased it entirely when you got it, but let's leave all that aside because you've already said the network speed was higher a few days ago.

Yes, you should run csrutil enable in Recovery mode. I would advice just getting an adblocker extension or finding another solution than a VPN. With a VPN all your network traffic goes through a server the could be halfway across the world before going to its destination. A server that could be keeping logs on everything you do as well. VPNs have their place, but I'd personally never connect to any VPN that isn't my university network, something I have control over, future employer network for a very specific temporary purpose like CTF challenges. It could very well be slowing down your networking to be connected to a VPN since in addition to your own connection and the additional latency of connecting to another server, that server's speed is also a factor and it could be handling other computers as well.

Other ad-blocking solutions that live either as a browser extension or on your network can stop the connection to adservers from being attempted which will improve browsing speed on heavily ad-filled sites, in contrast to your VPN that will even in optimal circumstances, inevitably, be a slowdown, even if it isn't the cause of your current extreme slowdown.
But I would also advice allowing ads on pages you enjoy, since it helps the sites stay open for business. Either that, or when possible send them a buck or two to offset the lack of ad revenue.

Should you desire an adblocker they're available both from the App Store and various places on the web. uBlock Origin, NoTrack, many options

They wiped it, but they left uTorrent and a file on it, I deleted both of those. It was on Lion so I upgraded it to Yosemite via USB and then HS in the app store. I ran out of my free monthly VPN anyways. The guy is saying now I have a “problem with my hdd”, “bad RAM” and that I need “a new one”. I mean really! I just got it and it has been fast until today. It’s probably some malware. I’m not gonna buy all that, you are definitely right, I only had a VPN because I wanted to stay safe online. The guy on Apple forums also said to run the hardware test and DriveDx and I got “1: passing on Apple hardware test”, on DirextDX, 100% no errors, smart status 100. Im running my local VPN.
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They wiped it, but they left uTorrent and a file on it, I deleted both of those. It was on Lion so I upgraded it to Yosemite via USB and then HS in the app store. I ran out of my free monthly VPN anyways. The guy is saying now I have a “problem with my hdd”, “bad RAM” and that I need “a new one”. I mean really! I just got it and it has been fast until today. It’s probably some malware. I’m not gonna buy all that, you are definitely right, I only had a VPN because I wanted to stay safe online and everyone has one. I wanted one too. The guy on Apple forums also said to run the hardware test and DriveDx and I got “1: passing on Apple hardware test”, on DirextDX, 100% no errors, smart status 100. Im running my local VPN.

Plus I’ve barely started using the Mac Mini, Idk what they are talking about. :/
 

iluvmacs99

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HELP! All of a sudden web browsing and download speeds take so long on my Mac. I would be able to download something of 4GB in one minute, And now a 3GB OS takes 45 minutes. Web browsing takes FOREVER. Could it be my VPN+Firewall called Windscribe? It’s a 2011 Mac Mini and I just set it up a week ago, Only 20 GB used. I have no idea what happened, what do I do? It’s using a very high speed WiFi that is lightning fast on every other device. Also YouTube videos are bad quality now. What do I do?

Scroll down on the link and click on my Etrecheck report

Check your WIFI connections. Are you on 2.4Ghz or 5.0Ghz? If you are on 2.4Ghz, does your router support 5Ghz? If so, can you force connect your Mini to 5Ghz? Distance will be shorter for full throughput, but the interference will be less. I have a 2011 Mini myself and with 2.4Ghz WIFI, it will interfere with USB and Bluetooth as the USB ports filled can generate interference field that slows down your WIFI connection. Bluetooth can also slow down the 2.4Ghz WIFI as it shares the same frequency. With 5Ghz, you would not have any issues. Or else, something is running behind a process that is downloading something big and this will curtain your internet bandwidth. Since you got this Mac Mini from someone who runs torrent and with no securities, it could be set up to download or upload things and share questionable torrent sites with other people and use the Mini as the server. This could explain why sometimes you would loose bandwidth and everything slows down.

In this case, I highly suggest that you wipe your Mini entirely clean and re-install the new OS from scratch so that you are not sharing files via torrent.
 
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casperes1996

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They wiped it, but they left uTorrent and a file on it, I deleted both of those. It was on Lion so I upgraded it to Yosemite via USB and then HS in the app store. I ran out of my free monthly VPN anyways. The guy is saying now I have a “problem with my hdd”, “bad RAM” and that I need “a new one”. I mean really! I just got it and it has been fast until today. It’s probably some malware. I’m not gonna buy all that, you are definitely right, I only had a VPN because I wanted to stay safe online. The guy on Apple forums also said to run the hardware test and DriveDx and I got “1: passing on Apple hardware test”, on DirextDX, 100% no errors, smart status 100. Im running my local VPN.

If they left uTorrent and a file, it wasn't wiped. Dragging things to the trash isn't what I meant; I meant reformatting the drive entirely so that when you set up your user account on it, there's nothing remaining of what it used to be.

What do you mean "local" VPN?
A VPN does not make you any safer online at all. That's a complete red pairing from the people trying to sell VPNs. Unless your ISP is intercepting connections to certain websites and you need to disguise what websites you visit a VPN does not improve privacy, and if it's on your own network anyway it doesn't even do that. It just makes every connection two connections instead of just 1. A VPN is essentially that instead of sending a packet with the postal service, you give it to a friend and ask the friend to send it for you. It takes extra time to give the packet to your friend first, but the people at the post office, i.e. your ISP won't know who the real recipient is, only that you''re sending and receiving packets from this one friend. - Your VPN provider is clearly then selectively sending packets back to you since it also blocks ads. But did you pay for the VPN? If not, curious how they get the budget to operate servers perhaps across the world sending and receiving traffic from other people. My bet is that they sell your information that is completely visible to them when all your data goes through them.
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In this case, I highly suggest that you wipe your Mini entirely clean and re-install the new OS from scratch so that you are not sharing files via torrent.

I would agree with this suggestion as well. If you already have a USB with a macOS installer, boot from it and use Disk utility to wipe the drive before reinstalling.
 
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christiann

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If they left uTorrent and a file, it wasn't wiped. Dragging things to the trash isn't what I meant; I meant reformatting the drive entirely so that when you set up your user account on it, there's nothing remaining of what it used to be.

What do you mean "local" VPN?
A VPN does not make you any safer online at all. That's a complete red pairing from the people trying to sell VPNs. Unless your ISP is intercepting connections to certain websites and you need to disguise what websites you visit a VPN does not improve privacy, and if it's on your own network anyway it doesn't even do that. It just makes every connection two connections instead of just 1. A VPN is essentially that instead of sending a packet with the postal service, you give it to a friend and ask the friend to send it for you. It takes extra time to give the packet to your friend first, but the people at the post office, i.e. your ISP won't know who the real recipient is, only that you''re sending and receiving packets from this one friend. - Your VPN provider is clearly then selectively sending packets back to you since it also blocks ads. But did you pay for the VPN? If not, curious how they get the budget to operate servers perhaps across the world sending and receiving traffic from other people. My bet is that they sell your information that is completely visible to them when all your data goes through them.
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I would agree with this suggestion as well. If you already have a USB with a macOS installer, boot from it and use Disk utility to wipe the drive before reinstalling.

So the apple forums guy now says that I got scammed, and says I am doing something dangerous. I MEAN WHAT! It was just a small torrent file running at 0% that wouldn’t even install because of bad Wifi. So now this apple guy thinks I am trying to do harm and scam people. I am not that type of person! Who’d waste their life on that besides Microsoft scammers!

How do I tell if my WiFi is dual band 5GHZ? It has two antennas though and is Linksys. My Mac Mini is upstairs, Router/modem is downstairs.

I don’t download crack files and stuff though. That Apple guy was really weird.... Geez!


The WiFi seems better after I enabled SIP.

I swear, I’ve never disabled System Integrity. Im all for safety. I re connected it in terminal in recovery mode. Could the lady that gave it to me had disabled it before she gave it to me??
 

casperes1996

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How do I tell if my WiFi is dual band 5GHZ? It has two antennas though and is Linksys. My Mac Mini is upstairs, Router/modem is downstairs.

Well you can tell what your Mac is connected to by alt-clicking the wi-fi icon in the menu bar like I mentioned earlier.
For the wi-fi itself that would be in the manual of your router/access point or on its control page.

I swear, I’ve never disabled System Integrity. Im all for safety. I re connected it in terminal in recovery mode. Could the lady that gave it to me had disabled it before she gave it to me??

Yes, she could've done that
 

christiann

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Well you can tell what your Mac is connected to by alt-clicking the wi-fi icon in the menu bar like I mentioned earlier.
For the wi-fi itself that would be in the manual of your router/access point or on its control page.



Yes, she could've done that
2.4GHZ 20 MHZ 802.11N en1
 
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