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porcupine8

macrumors 6502a
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Mar 2, 2011
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I was so excited to find that you can do basic edits (rotate, crop, red eye) right in the photo app in iOS 5. But I was just as annoyed to find that once you "save" one of these edits, it disappears as soon as you open the photo in another app - whether another editing app, or trying to upload it to something like photobucket! Viewing the .jpg via iFile shows that it hasn't been changed, the edits are purely to how it's shown in Photo app, not to the file.

Am I missing something? It does seem to send the edited photo via email. Is there a way to make the photo app save the edits to the actual file? I was hoping to crop and rotate several dozen photos then upload them to order prints, but it looks like I'll have to go through the annoyance of doing it all in an outside app and having duplicates in my albums.
 

TonyC28

macrumors 68030
Aug 15, 2009
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7,247
USA
I noticed this too when I uploaded some pics to my computer. The pics reverted to the original photo that was taken.
 

TonyC28

macrumors 68030
Aug 15, 2009
2,882
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USA
Sir, I know a thing about this: Photos app actually saves TWO version of your photos: the unedited (jpg) and the edited (xmp). So, I suppose you must copy the xmp one to see the edited one.

I don't know about all that stuff. What I'm saying is that if I take a photo, then make changes to it within the Photos app, then save those changes...if I transfer that photo to my computer it shows up on the computer without the changes that were made. When you make those changes in Photos on iOS it doesn't save two versions of the picture, at least not that you can see in Photos, so how can I transfer one or the other if all I'm left with is the edited photo?
 

Ashwood11

macrumors 65816
Nov 10, 2010
1,153
0
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I was so excited to find that you can do basic edits (rotate, crop, red eye) right in the photo app in iOS 5. But I was just as annoyed to find that once you "save" one of these edits, it disappears as soon as you open the photo in another app - whether another editing app, or trying to upload it to something like photobucket! Viewing the .jpg via iFile shows that it hasn't been changed, the edits are purely to how it's shown in Photo app, not to the file.

Am I missing something? It does seem to send the edited photo via email. Is there a way to make the photo app save the edits to the actual file? I was hoping to crop and rotate several dozen photos then upload them to order prints, but it looks like I'll have to go through the annoyance of doing it all in an outside app and having duplicates in my albums.

Are you referring to "Photos" or "iPhoto"?
 

porcupine8

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Mar 2, 2011
844
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Sir, I know a thing about this: Photos app actually saves TWO version of your photos: the unedited (jpg) and the edited (xmp). So, I suppose you must copy the xmp one to see the edited one.

Where is the xmp file saved? There are only jpgs in /var/mobile/Media/DCIM/100APPLE
 

APlotdevice

macrumors 68040
Sep 3, 2011
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3,861
Sir, I know a thing about this: Photos app actually saves TWO version of your photos: the unedited (jpg) and the edited (xmp). So, I suppose you must copy the xmp one to see the edited one.
A .xmp file is not an image. It's metadata. iOS uses non-destructive editing, meaning the changes you make are stored as parameters.
 

porcupine8

macrumors 6502a
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Mar 2, 2011
844
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A .xmp file is not an image. It's metadata. iOS uses non-destructive editing, meaning the changes you make are stored as parameters.

"Non-destructive" - what a lovely euphemism for "completely useless outside the Photo app itself."
 

3bs

macrumors 603
May 20, 2011
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Dublin, Ireland
"Non-destructive" - what a lovely euphemism for "completely useless outside the Photo app itself."

Yeah this really sucks. Is there no way to force it to save the edited version in the camera roll? Either replace the unedited version or create a new edited version.
 

porcupine8

macrumors 6502a
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Mar 2, 2011
844
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Screenshot after you make your changes, or buy the iOS version of iPhoto.

A screenshot would be significantly lower resolution. I have tons of photo editing apps already, the whole reason I was excited that editing was integrated into the photos app is so I can rotate & crop large volumes of photos without the extra step of opening in another app, then having a second copy saved that I then have to re-move to whatever album. I'm intending to buy iPhoto anyhow, because I'm addicted to photo editing apps, but I'm still on 5.0.1 for jailbreak purposes so I have to go through some rigmarole to download it.
 

porcupine8

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Mar 2, 2011
844
5
This seems to be working properly now. If I open the .jpg in iFile it's still unedited, but it exports the edits if I open the photo with another app or upload it. Anyone know if this was fixed in 5.1 or something?
 

QuarterSwede

macrumors G3
Oct 1, 2005
9,880
2,155
Colorado Springs, CO
I'm intending to buy iPhoto anyhow, because I'm addicted to photo editing apps, but I'm still on 5.0.1 for jailbreak purposes so I have to go through some rigmarole to download it.
iPhoto will replace a ton of your editing apps. I find it better than iPhoto on the Mac. I can usually have a completely edited picture within 30 sec to 1 min of taking the picture and have it uploaded. However, I only dump my photos and videos to my Mac every few months for archiving since it's all backed up to iCloud.
 
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