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Ok here's my main question after reading all this. I buy an iPhone from Apple - I activate. After 2 month's it concks out - just stops working.

Who do I take it to? Apple or Cingular?

Right now I can take a dead phone to Cingualr correct? With a warantee or service contract, they can usually give me a replacement on the spot. Will it be the same for the iPhone? And who will I be buying the warantee through? Who is doing the service?
 
If - as is reported in the Verizon article - Apple was dictating the support terms to the networks, it would seem that Cingular will be providing the repairs & support, but the terms & conditions will be set by Apple.

That sounds to me like Apple is really, really obsessed with controlling the entire user experience on this device - which could be a good thing or bad.
 
Analysts don't know squat. The iphone is an almost impossible product to actually predict since we don't even know what all of it's features are yet. You have to also take into account the other models that Apple is surely producing (think iPhone Mini/Nano/Shuffle). Just guessing about future market share is pretty much worthless at this point I think.
 
Well, they do say 20%, which is nothing to be sneezed at!

(Wait a sec... 20% a year... 10 years. In 10 years time, they'll be paying me! full price to take an iPhone! Woohoo! :p )

No...

1st year : $500
2nd year : $400
3rd year : $320
4th year : $256
<and so on>

20% margin gets smaller every year!
 
Analysts don't know squat. The iphone is an almost impossible product to actually predict since we don't even know what all of it's features are yet. You have to also take into account the other models that Apple is surely producing (think iPhone Mini/Nano/Shuffle). Just guessing about future market share is pretty much worthless at this point I think.

iPhone Shuffle hmmm?

<I feel like calling someone>

...dials...

<I wonder who it will be...>
 
iPhone Shuffle hmmm?

<I feel like calling someone>

...dials...

<I wonder who it will be...>

iphone-shuffle.jpg
 
Analysts don't know squat. The iphone is an almost impossible product to actually predict since we don't even know what all of it's features are yet. You have to also take into account the other models that Apple is surely producing (think iPhone Mini/Nano/Shuffle). Just guessing about future market share is pretty much worthless at this point I think.

This is too true, it's far to soon to properly predict anything. Prices will drop, as with everything as they gain age, but newer, better models will be released. I think one thing is for sure, the iPhone will change the way we see cell phones. It's about damn time we get an all in one device like such. Now we just have to find out what the bugs and problems will be and how long it'll take them to get past it. I predict 6 months to a year, like most things (excluding anything released from Microsoft, besides xbox 360 which seems to be quite bug free now from what I saw at my friends the other day).
 
If - as is reported in the Verizon article - Apple was dictating the support terms to the networks, it would seem that Cingular will be providing the repairs & support, but the terms & conditions will be set by Apple.

That sounds to me like Apple is really, really obsessed with controlling the entire user experience on this device - which could be a good thing or bad.

They always want to control it because they want to provide a high quality experience. I just wish that they'd do the same with the manufacturing of their products, not just their services.
 
Ok here's my main question after reading all this. I buy an iPhone from Apple - I activate. After 2 month's it concks out - just stops working.

Who do I take it to? Apple or Cingular?

Right now I can take a dead phone to Cingualr correct? With a warantee or service contract, they can usually give me a replacement on the spot. Will it be the same for the iPhone? And who will I be buying the warantee through? Who is doing the service?

From my understanding, they are providing joint support. In other words, you can take your iPhone to either Cingular or Apple for assistance. I'm sure Apple will also treat the iPhone like any of their other products - i.e. 90 day phone support and 1 year hardware warranty, expandable to 3 years of both phone support and warranty with an AppleCare package. That's the point of the terms Apple wanted - they wanted the iPhone to be an Apple product that just happens to use Cingular's network. In other words, it's like how you buy a Mac from Apple, but use, say, Comcast's network to access the internet.

(Yes I know, it's not a perfect analog, as you are locked to Cingular, but you can thank the historical structure of cellular phone companies in America. I think Apple hopes to break this and one day bring about a cellular phone carrier structure that is similar to how the internet works today - the phone manufacturer controls, and sells, phones, and the networks provide service. Separation of product and service, in other words.)
 
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