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http://www.neowin.net/news/googles-...-is-blocked-if-your-device-is-rooted#comments

Google's new movie rental service is blocked if your device is rooted

In what's sure to surprise quite a few people, Google has decided to block their new Movie rental service on all rooted Android devices, according to a report from Android Central.

"Rooting" is a common practice in the Android world, this allows the removal of applications that came pre-installed which users may not want. Rooting allows the use of applications which wouldn't normally be possible on an Android device, such as screenshot taking apps and the ability to block ads and quite a bit more. It's also normally the first step before installing a custom ROM, such as the very popular CyanogenMOD.

Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons.

You'll receive this "Error 49" message if you attempt to play a movie on a rooted device. Rooted devices are currently unsupported due to requirements related to copyright protection.

This is a bit of an unusual move from Google, who normally promote the open nature of Android; many rooted users are likely to feel somewhat irked by this. There's a likely possibility that the movie studios are the ones behind the decision, unwilling to let Google license anything without some form of copy protection in place. Because of this, many legitimate users will feel they're being punished for the sake of preventing something from leaking on the Internet, which in all likelihood will already be there anyway.

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http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...l+(Android+Central)&utm_content=Google+Reader

Android Market's new movie rental service blocked from rooted devices
By Jerry Hildenbrand 21 May 2011 12:53 pm

We can't make this up people. According to Google, who gets to make the rules since it's their service, rooted devices are not supported by the Android Markets new movie rental service "due to requirements related to copyright protection". You'll even see a specific error message when you attempt to try -- "Failed to fetch license for [movie title] (error 49)".

So now people who root their phones, whether to get rid of the crap "open" that's forced down their throats, or to have a current version of Android, are punished and lumped in with folks who steal movies. Nice move, Google. That makes me want to buy more of your products and use more of your services, so I can be treated like a criminal just because I'm smart enough to get rid of CityID, or want a safe version of Android on my phone. And of course, I'd much rather steal movies streamed with a poor bitrate at a low resolution to my phone than use Google to search out any of the thousands of places where I could steal them using my computer. Facepalm.

Of course, the Android community will find a way around this. I already have some ideas, and I'm sure others will, too. But we shouldn't have to. And once we do, I'll download one (and only one) movie from the Market for the satisfaction of defeating this stupid move by Google, then be sure to never use the service again. Redbox doesn't care if I want to run a custom ROM on my phone, so they'll get my $4.00.

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Open is great (it really isn't, but I'm just making a point), until there's money and copyrights at stake.
 

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"So now people who root their phones, whether to get rid of the crap "open" that's forced down their throats, or to have a current version of Android, are punished and lumped in with folks who steal movies. Nice move, Google"

Google have a solution for this. It is called Nexus S.

How Google are responsible for what carriers/OEMs put on their handsets is beyond me.

Your experience with the platform is probably feeble at best so can you elaborate as to what you are getting at with your comment at the bottom?
 

Rodimus Prime

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I wish Google had stood its ground the movie companies on this because lets face it this is crap and I hope Google fixes is quickly. Now this does not effect me as I was not going to rent anything threw Google movies but I did root my Atrix because of AT&T blocking sideloading which AT&T is now changing but it was to late I already rooted.
I will say I am shocked our resident fan boys reads android central. It is almost likes he goes around looking for negative things that go against things not apple.
 

*LTD*

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This was news, mentioned on Neowin. They host a variety of news about all aspects of tech.

Otherwise no, I have no reason to frequent Android forums in particular.
 

SevenInchScrew

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-- BREAKING NEWS --

Copyright holders impose ridiculous restrictions for experiencing their content. In other shocking news, water is still wet, and bears do actually poop in the woods.
 

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I'm an Android user myself, but I've seen time and time again that any DRM system will frustrate legitimate customers. It's best to avoid DRM entirely whenever possible, and this is no exception.
 

*LTD*

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roadbloc said:
SevenInchScrew said:
-- BREAKING NEWS --

Copyright holders impose ridiculous restrictions for experiencing their content. In other shocking news, water is still wet, and bears do actually poop in the woods.[/i]

This. Seriously, I don't see the big deal.

You're right, it isn't.

But a lot of Android users are shocked, for some reason.

And have you seen the comments on the Android forums? They want everything for free. They'd take anything that isn't nailed down. It's hilarious.

http://www.androidcentral.com/google-movies-blocked-rooted-devices?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
 

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You're right, it isn't.

But a lot of Android users are shocked, for some reason.

And have you seen the comments on the Android forums? They want everything for free. They'd take anything that isn't nailed down. It's hilarious.

http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...l+(Android+Central)&utm_content=Google+Reader

So I see you have reverted to your standard snobby self that twist anything to make non apple people look bad. Thank your for proving evidance of why Apple fans are though so little of.

I read threw those comments and the complaint is being blocked by Google because the devices is rooted. You clearly do not know why people root their phone. Hell I am willing to bet good money that you do not jail break and would fully support Apple blocking Jail broken phones form the App store.
 

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You're right, it isn't.

But a lot of Android users are shocked, for some reason.

And have you seen the comments on the Android forums? They want everything for free. They'd take anything that isn't nailed down. It's hilarious.

http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...l+(Android+Central)&utm_content=Google+Reader

A lot of people pirate media and simply expect to be able to get non physical based media for free easily thanks to the like of Limewire and now Frostwire. Most people are in the opinion that the media based industries "have enough money," which is unfortunately rather far from the truth, but I guess that is how most people think.

To be honest, I don't really see the major point in this thread, it is not Google's fault people think like this. It is the media based industries fault for being so late on the Internet bandwagon, and instead of seeing it as an opitunity, cringed and convinced themselves that it would only result in copyright infrinent. And the pirate services got there first.
 

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A lot of people pirate media and simply expect to be able to get non physical based media for free easily thanks to the like of Limewire and now Frostwire. Most people are in the opinion that the media based industries "have enough money," which is unfortunately rather far from the truth, but I guess that is how most people think.

To be honest, I don't really see the major point in this thread, it is not Google's fault people think like this. It is the media based industries fault for being so late on the Internet bandwagon, and instead of seeing it as an opitunity, cringed and convinced themselves that it would only result in copyright infrinent. And the pirate services got there first.

Id love it if large numbers of people started getting fined for using torrents/p2p/usenet to download copyrighted material. Out of all my mates and people i work with id say only a few actually buy media. People have become so used to not paying for things. Most with iPhones are JB so they get free apps etc. Theres lots of music/media id like but if i cant afford it then i simply put it off till next month. I mean lets be honest, there isn't that much new music thats worth buying!
 

roadbloc

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Not strictly related to the topic, but this comment from one of *LTD*'s links made sense to me.
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I agree with this comment. If I was to watch a movie, let it be on my TV or iMac, not my iPhone. I watch a bit of BBC iPlayer on my iPhone at most if I'm finding it hard to get to sleep at night. I'm curious on why Google think movie rentals on a mobile phone is such a great thing?

Then again... if this service hit the Android Tablets, I can imagine it would be great for the travelling person. And I guess Apple have been striving towards the same thing for some time I guess.
 

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*LTD* said:

Great news about HTC reviewing their locked bootloader policy.

Both Motorola and HTC are now looking into more open options is a good thing. Me personally, I wouldn't buy an Android handset with a locked bootloader (Nexus all the way!).

Restricting video content on rooted devices is up to the content providers. It's **** but that's the way they work.

Perhaps Apple can step up to the mantle and provide universally supported video content without drm like they did with music? That would be a game changer.
 

SevenInchScrew

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Then again... if this service hit the Android Tablets, I can imagine it would be great for the travelling person. And I guess Apple have been striving towards the same thing for some time I guess.
They have been available on ANY Android device from the start. That was one of their main showings when they unveiled the feature. Rent a movie from the Market, and you have access to it on either your computer or on any of your Android devices (Phone, Tablet, GoogleTV, etc)....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxzucwjFEEs&t=20m15s
 

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It seems that HTC have decided to sell all future phones with unlocked bootloaders (after LTD posted that Neowin article).

A big win for "open" and it's nice to see HTC listen to its customer base. One more reason to like HTC as a company for me.
 
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