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Philflow

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I'm interested in booting, launching applications etc. Not in graphics performance.

Will the 64GB SSD still be faster than the 120GB HDD?
 

Philflow

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Thanks but I mean the new 1.6 with 120GB versus the old 1.8Ghz with 64GB SSD.

I know the old 80GB was slow, but I'm wondering how much faster the new 120GB will be. It will have higher data density so there'll be some improvement.
 

twist2b

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I can't wait as well, but know this:

MacBook Air performance is as impressive as its form, thanks to its 1.6GHz or 1.86GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor. This chip was custom built to fit within the compact dimensions of MacBook Air. And now it’s faster than ever. The new 1066MHz frontside bus, additional L2 cache (6MB total), and 2GB of faster DDR3 RAM provide plenty of speed and memory for working with your favorite applications.

The NVIDIA GeForce 9400M provides up to an amazing 4x performance boost over the original MacBook Air.

Faster Intel mobile architecture

With speeds up to 1.86GHz, the Intel Core 2 Duo processor in the new MacBook Air offers 50 percent more L2 cache, faster DDR3 memory, and a faster frontside bus than the previous model.

As you can see, it seems no matter which drive you choose, there is going to be a considerable performance boost in the Rev B.





Oh and for those curious about the EXACT GB:
1GB = 1 billion bytes; actual formatted capacity less.
thats what they say :)
 

Philflow

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As you can see, it seems no matter which drive you choose, there is going to be a considerable performance boost in the Rev B.
Not for me. I use my MBA for browsing, downloading, IM, some 720p videos, writing documents.

Nothing I do needs more graphics power.

I do like fast booting and fast application opening.
 

twist2b

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Not for me. I use my MBA for browsing, downloading, IM, some 720p videos, writing documents.

Nothing I do needs more graphics power.

I do like fast booting and fast application opening.

Read the quotes again, it says the L2 cache is 50% faster! And faster DDR3 memory, and a faster frontside bus than the previous model as well.

Also, just so you know:
the graphics card controls the display, a better graphics card actually helps with the processing. WHen you open an app, the graphics card has to take care of all the display. Say you open iTunes, its got TONS of album art. Well its going to be slower to open with a bad graphics card. catching my drift?

Edit - and if you like faster boots and apps, the SSD is for you.
 

Philflow

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Read the quotes again, it says the L2 cache is 50% faster! And faster DDR3 memory, and a faster frontside bus than the previous model as well.

Also, just so you know:
the graphics card controls the display, a better graphics card actually helps with the processing. WHen you open an app, the graphics card has to take care of all the display. Say you open iTunes, its got TONS of album art. Well its going to be slower to open with a bad graphics card. catching my drift?

Let's agree to disagree, because I believe the GPU is totally unimportant for what I do.

All I want to know is how the MBA 120GB HDD performs against the MBA 64GB SSD in real life benchmarks. Not synthetic ones.
 

twist2b

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Let's agree to disagree, because I believe the GPU is totally unimportant for what I do.

All I want to know is how the MBA 120GB HDD performs against the MBA 64GB SSD in real life benchmarks. Not synthetic ones.

Yeah, that is cool :)
I would be interested as well. I was just trying to show you that the processors and the drives were both updated, so it SHOULD be better. :)
 

Philflow

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Yeah, that is cool :)
I would be interested as well. I was just trying to show you that the processors and the drives were both updated, so it SHOULD be better. :)

yes and lot's of stuff is updated you're right.

But things like more L2 cache and higher memory speed only influence a very limited amount of situations. For me anyway.

Thing is 120GB HDD and 64GB SSD are around the same price level. I just don't like getting a 4200rpm hard drive with a 20ms acces time.
 

DJY

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I'm very keen to see some comparisons...
across the ENTIRE MBA range...

I'm more interested in
64GB SSD (original MBA) vs 128GB SSD (new MBA)...
also 120GB HDD vs 128GB HDD...
but seeing all combinations / or at least all four models (two original, and two new models) line up side by side... in an easy to understand real environment.

This will allow me as a non IT person, but still keen professional to make the best informed decision I can.
 

Philflow

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but seeing all combinations / or at least all four models (two original, and two new models) line up side by side... in an easy to understand real environment.

I think many people are waiting for this, so I expect some website will surely post this.
 

mac jones

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I'm thinkin that the new 128GB SSD is much faster (x2) than the gen1 64GB SSD.

At least that's what people are saying and the benches seem to support this.

In other words, everyone is very impressed by them (so far)...the new ones that is.

And I wouldn't count on this new HD drive to be much better if it's still 4200rpm. (which I believe it is)

These new SSDs are desirable, especially in the Air where I would venture to say a necessity.

I also think the Samsung is a safe bet for these, as i'm pretty sure the folks at Apple had looked in to some of the issues that are being adressed in these forums.

But the real nagging question is the longevity of them. I've been reading about the MLC SSDs crapping out after a month or two when all of a sudden they start to exhibit odd behavior.

We will just have to keep our fingers crossed.
 

Philflow

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And I wouldn't count on this new HD drive to be much better if it's still 4200rpm. (which I believe it is)

Yes it is 4200rpm. But the old drive had 40GB per platter, the new drive will have 60GB per platter. This means increased throughput.

The 64GB SSD isn't very fast for a SSD, so I'm expecting the 120GB will give it a good run for the money. That's why I'm interested in the benchmarks.
 

ghileman

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I don't believe any HDD Rev. 2's have shipped yet.

If someone really wants to know and is located in the Bay Area, the Emeryville, CA store confirmed they had both the new SSD and HDD models in stock. I didn't believe them and asked them to double check before I came down. I picked up the new SSD (love it!) but didn't actually visually confirm whether they had the HDD model in stock.
 

twist2b

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May 26, 2008
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Umm, one thing I forgot is that the updated processors have WAY better cache (50% faster) So, there is going to be a performance boost regardless. I think the SSD will still be faster in reads, BUUUUUT in some things, it might be slower.


Just a thought.
 
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