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Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing
 
I have an iPad 11 Pro cellular. I mostly got mine because I used to (before virus hit) travel a lot. This makes a huge difference when you're in an airport without a good wifi service, also in a hotel without .... you get the picture. A lot of our conference rooms had horrific internet as well.

While I don't use it that much now, I still like it ---- I pay Verizon about $21/mo for adding a tablet data plan to my wireless plan.


The only thing I caution about going full iPad is that there are still many things that are easier on a MacBook, though these gaps are closing. Dealing with multiple spreadsheets, copy/pasting large amounts of data, using a nice sized monitor for those 5-6+ hour study sessions, etc.

I tried the hotspot thing for awhile but .... while Apple makes it easy to initiate a hotspot from your iPad to your phone, it did drain the <bleep> out of the battery and then I had two devices to charge. That got old fast.
 
Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing
I just recently switched from a 13” 2020 MBP to a new 12.9” iPad Pro w/MKB (you MUST get the MKB or it is a non-starter). So far I have been quite impressed, but it hasn’t been without some frustrations as well. As of now the jury is still out on whether I will stick to this.

I just find myself missing macOS and the filesystem at times. iPad OS has come a long way though. They are getting there with the “Files” app. The biggest game changer for me is having an actual keyboard with trackpad. Apple definitely needs to continue down this path if they expect people to switch from laptops. We also need to see more 3rd party apps get on with support for the MKB.

The main thing is simply getting accustomed to working a different way. Depending upon a person’s needs, I certainly think this is a viable choice.
 
I know this is slightly OT, but I always see the 12.9 vs 11” talk, and how 12.9 really isn’t that big, etc. Well, I was in Best Buy today with my SIL because she was buying an Apple TV. I picked up the 12.9 that was on display. Yes, the display is gorgeous, but OMG that thing is a LOT bigger than the 11”, and I just cannot imagine using it in all the ways I can use the smaller iPP. I mean certainly if I had a smaller pad to use as a portable device, the 12.9 would be awesome for the desk, but for someone who can’t justify multiple pads that wants one versatile device, I am even more convinced that the 11 is the way to go.
 
I have been for the last couple of months, since being made redundant: 2nd gen 12.9 inch 256GB.

As an illustrator/teacher there is a lot that I can do on my iPad Pro. It does *almost* everything I need to do.

The only real hardware limitation is the screen size: can’t get 16 inch (which I guess could only work if it was a folding device).

The others are software:
  • Filing system still limited
  • Opening and editing PDFs can still be a chore
  • Photoshop still has limited features
  • Some web pages still don’t work as they do on desktop
  • Opening and unzipping big files doesn’t necessarily work
  • Impossible to do a full backup to iCloud if you have slow wifi
  • No third party backup services available
  • Have to backup to a desktop if you want a full local backup that you can restore from
  • Sharing documents between apps can be awkward and inconsistent
  • Desktop-grade 3D software still missing
  • Where are Apple’s own desktop apps: Logic and FinalCut?
Given all this, I love the iPad but I still see it as an almost-there solution.

I have a 24inch Wacom Cintiq on my desk, and I’m about to buy a Windows laptop with NVidia GPU.

Interested to see what happens in the next couple of years. The convergence of iOS and macOS may yet deliver everything I need in one device.

Btw I’ve found this Proper accessory to be indispensable:
 
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My colleague at work has the 12.9 inch so I tried it out several times. I just found it too big. However I know it‘s a good size for many people.

I think that’s one of the things which as well as being personal preference, is hard to really measure during the 14-day return window. I’m now using my 12.9” for everything and frequently have it out of its case for doing stuff on the sofa, reading in bed etc. The longer I’ve used it, the more the form factor has “shrunk” to the point where its just the norm - but I’ll admit that I have previously discounted the larger iPad for being too big and unwieldy.

I genuinely can’t imagine going back to a smaller iPad now even for media consumption.
 
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
Just wanted to address this one note. I have owned every version of the iPad since they came out. Currently running around with an iPadPro11. Each time I get the WiFi version only. I always have my iPhone with me and it has a 10GB hotspot as part of the plan. I can use my iPhone to allow my MacBook Pro, iPads, ZenBook, ect. to access the internet via hotspot. Easy peasy and no additional cellular plans needed nor the additional expense of a cellular iPad.

If the iPad is to be your only cellular device and / or you used it cellularly eight hours a day, I can definitely understand the additional expense.
 
Tons of us here on iPad full time. I have an 11” Pro issued as my sole work machine and am a finance executive, use it with an external monitor, keyboard and magic trackpad 2. Wouldn’t trade it for anything out there now on the market. But really interested to see what the new Apple Silicon Macs will bring as well, and how they can benefit my iPad Pro usage :)
 
I have a personal iPad Pro 10.5 and a work-issued MacBook Pro 13. I must say that the portability and versatility of the iPad is very nice, and I have used it as my primary personal computer for the past couple of years. However, there are some MAJOR shortcomings which have often forced me to use my work-issued MacBook Pro (which I do not like to do with personal data):

1. Apps. Even basic functionality which exists in the Mac version of Microsoft Office isn't in the iOS/iPadOS version, which is REALLY stripped down. Same is true for many of the native Apple apps, such as Mail. In addition, I have an audio capture app which I occasionally use on the Mac, and there is no equivalent on the iPad (captures system audio to a file). The iPad versions of Safari and Firefox will still sometimes load the "mobile" or "tablet" versions of web sites, even when set to request desktop versions; this always happens when you use Split Screen. I have a music collection built up over the years (from various sources) on the Mac, but can't figure out how to get this onto the iPad without using a Mac. I cannot rip new CDs, etc. into iTunes on iPadOS, as I haven't yet transferred all of my CD collection to digital files, nor can I see or change the metadata for songs already in iTunes on the iPad. Again, apps are often REALLY stripped down versus their desktop counterparts, or even worse, only exist as front-ends to cloud services which force you to store your data on someone else's system rather than your local iPad.
2. The multitasking interface isn't nearly as easy, efficient, or flexible to work with as macOS, where you can just put multiple windows wherever you want them on the screen, and see everything at once.
3. No traditional file system access. This makes working with files a PAIN, especially when different apps handle file access differently. Most iPadOS apps really aren't file or print-centric; it feels like these capabilities are an afterthought and very basic in function.
4. Lack of a desktop as a place to temporarily put things. If I'm working with screen caps, moving files around, etc. I can put everything on the Desktop and then move it to where I would like using multiple windows. Yes, you might be lucky enough to have your apps permit saving to Files, and do it from there, but the workflow here is not nearly as efficient.
5. Printer support. Basic printing to a printer which supports AirPrint works fine most of the time, but when it doesn't (formatting is off, page which looks fine on print preview outputs differently, etc.) then you're stuck. Print options are minimal compared with macOS, such as the inability to select a custom paper size. I have a HP MFC, and can print from the iPad, but can't fax or scan as I can with the Mac. There is no print job management or status functionality, so if there's a problem after you hit "Print," you're left in the dark.

The iPad is a great portable computer for very basic functionality, but it has a long way to go in order to mirror the very basic functionality of a laptop or desktop. Until iPadOS is more full-featured and flexible, and the apps more mature, it will be very difficult to be a laptop replacement for me. I'm having to do personal work on borrowed laptops enough that I am now looking to purchase a MacBook Pro to use as my primary personal computer.
 
Not 100% full-time because I just don’t like the way the apps on iPadOS is the nerfed version of the desktop apps (i.e.) Excel and Lightroom. Also I have to triage photos and doing that on the iPad Pro 12.9” sucks as well.
It’s a bit strong to call lightroom on the iPad nerfed, it lacks a couple of the more obscure features of classic, and it has a different take on file management - but it’s still an excellent editing app.
 
I have an iPad 11 Pro cellular. I mostly got mine because I used to (before virus hit) travel a lot. This makes a huge difference when you're in an airport without a good wifi service, also in a hotel without .... you get the picture. A lot of our conference rooms had horrific internet as well.

While I don't use it that much now, I still like it ---- I pay Verizon about $21/mo for adding a tablet data plan to my wireless plan.


The only thing I caution about going full iPad is that there are still many things that are easier on a MacBook, though these gaps are closing. Dealing with multiple spreadsheets, copy/pasting large amounts of data, using a nice sized monitor for those 5-6+ hour study sessions, etc.

I tried the hotspot thing for awhile but .... while Apple makes it easy to initiate a hotspot from your iPad to your phone, it did drain the <bleep> out of the battery and then I had two devices to charge. That got old fast.

My thoughts exactly. I picked up the LTE model for my new 12.9” as well.
 
Most seem to go for the 11........but I do wonder now with the new keyboard, the gap becomes less of a issue.

I think it boils down to whether you still want it to be a really portable, versatile tablet. If you want to pull it off the keyboard and use it as a tablet often, the 11” is likely the way to go for most people. I know some say they read in bed with the 12.9, but holding it in the store, I just couldn’t imagine that being ideal. The 11 is still lightweight, and not much bigger than your average open book when you’re holding it. The 12.9 is like a world atlas. ;-p

If you’re only ever gonna be using it on a desk with the keyboard, the 12.9 is definitely the winner. I mean great size, gorgeous screen, full size keyboard - definitely awesome for that.
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I’m not sure I’d say “most” but I’d agree that more people go with the 11”. It’s just the more portable size. Up until this year, I always bought the smaller Pro (9.7”, then 10.5”, then 11”), but the Magic Keyboard and the addition of trackpad support changed the calculus for me. I was already using my smaller Pros as laptop/tablet combos, but the more jobs I gave them that used to be for the Mac, the more constrained the screen felt. It was time to move up. Since we haven’t been spending nearly as much money during COVID on going out and doing fun stuff, I took advantage of our fuller-than-usual bank account and splurged on the bigger model.

I have thought a lot about why Apple uses the 12.9” model in a majority of their iPad Pro marketing materials and informational pages. Sure, they obviously want to steer you toward the pricier model if they can, but I think there’s more to it than that. The iPad Pro started out as one flagship size: the 12.9”. The 9.7” model was clearly already done being developed by that time, but they wanted the spotlight on the 12.9” model first, and they continue to target that size as the standard Pro model. I think it’s all about split screen and the ability to have full size apps side by side, as well as the bigger canvas for artists.

That’s not to say the 11” isn’t great. I loved mine to death.

Certainly the 12.9 takes best advantage of split screen, and having more screen real estate simplifies a lot of other tasks as well. I do think the 11” is best as a portable tablet. They definitely each have their “pros.” ;-p

I have thought that maybe I should’ve gone for the 12.9, but seeing it in person solidified that, for me, right now, the 11 was the best choice since it’s my only iPad. Of course, it’s also my only computing device, which would make the 12.9 seem like the better option. For me the 12.9 is just too darn much iPad to use in situations away from the desk.

I have considered getting the next gen 12.9 since I’m using the iPad as my main computing device now, but likely will only do that if I either hang onto my 11” or go back to having a mini as well. My problem has been not really feeling like I’ll get enough use out of 2 pads, but needs change and in a year or so, who knows...
 
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I’ve only ever seen the 12.9 used on a desk (at university) - I can’t imagine that thing being used on a lap. Never thought it would be to be honest. Do you use a lap desk at all?

I use mine on my lap too. Its pretty good and very stable. Its a bit disconcerting at first because the base is so thin - it was almost like I was afraid i was going to bend it. But it works well, just be aware of the top-heavy nature of it compared to a traditional laptop.
 
I think it boils down to whether you still want it to be a really portable, versatile tablet. If you want to pull it off the keyboard and use it as a tablet often, the 11” is likely the way to go for most people. I know some say they read in bed with the 12.9, but holding it in the store, I just couldn’t imagine that being ideal. The 11 is still lightweight, and not much bigger than your average open book when you’re holding it. The 12.9 is like a world atlas. ;-p

If you’re only ever gonna be using it on a desk with the keyboard, the 12.9 is definitely the winner. I mean great size, gorgeous screen, full size keyboard - definitely awesome for that.
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Certainly the 12.9 takes best advantage of split screen, and having more screen real estate simplifies a lot of other tasks as well. I do think the 11” is best as a portable tablet. They definitely each have their “pros.” ;-p

I have thought that maybe I should’ve gone for the 12.9, but seeing it in person solidified that, for me, right now, the 11 was the best choice since it’s my only iPad. Of course, it’s also my only computing device, which would make the 12.9 seem like the better option. For me the 12.9 is just too darn much iPad to use in situations away from the desk.

I have considered getting the next gen 12.9 since I’m using the iPad as my main computing device now, but likely will only do that if I either hang onto my 11” or go back to having a mini as well. My problem has been not really feeling like I’ll get enough use out of 2 pads, but needs change and in a year or so, who knows...
Same. I’d love to have a mini 5 just to keep on my nightstand, but I don’t want to own 2 iPads.
 
Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing
Hi, I’m a full time iPad Pro user since the very first 12.9 inch was released. It takes getting used to as some work flows will likely change. I currently have the wi-fi only 2018 12.9in. I build websites (even PHP if you can believe that!) use Git, edit film, make music, maintain YouTube channel (not that I post that much, but wanted to let you know it works just great). I love the drawing apps and make art. In summary, I would say that I’m not a typical user (I go beyond mail, internet, social media, and video watching)...on iPad you develop and code websites (javascript, PHP, HTML, CSS), create graphics/images, edit photos and video and sound with amazing 3rd party apps (even the included ones are pretty good!)
And being able to touch everything and move everything by hand has been a welcome change for me.
I recommend you try it (you get 14 days!) and see. However, I would caution that if you’re going to do a test...I recommend avoiding using your mac during the test....otherwise the conflicting mind/body habits of the user interface might be confusing and not allow you to settle in and discover how you really feel about it.

My specific comments to your numbered questions:
1) I think if you have a decent cellular plan (perhaps unlimited) you can survive with Wi-Fi only version and tether to your phone (hotspot) when you require in-the-field freedom. That’s what I do. I have a very inexpensive unlimited plan with t-Mobile so it’s perfect.

2) I can’t speak to the new keyboard as I don’t have it. I have the 2018 version and it does fold over on itself! Be aware that the new keyboard is quite fancy....VERY expensive and quite heavy...almost doubles the weight of the iPad.

3) If you’re like me and use iCloud for everything...then I would recommend you consider getting the smallest storage device possible. The iPad supports external storage so you can attach your own if you need more...and it’s much cheaper to buy your own than to add it on the iPad at time of purchase. Also, the next iPad OS (possibly this fall) will have a lot of features that will make having an iPad even easier such as being able to select third party apps as default for mail and browser choice, for example. Side by Side apps makes working very quick and easy....especially having two emails open at same time. It works for me.

I wish you all the best and hope you find the solution that is best for you.
Cheers
Louis
 
Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing

1 - cellular is tempting. If personal hotspot from your phone isn’t available to you or not appealing and no wifi around, why not? Personally I managed ok with the wifi versions of iPads for a decade or so now.

2 - Give the magic keyboard a try. I usually recommend to order everything in one go from a seller with good return policy, like Apple. Test it, use it for nearly two weeks, and return if it doesn’t fit into your life. Your own judgement - nobody makes better decisions than yourself. I’d certainly consider it over that folio thingy.

3 - hm, everybody’s journey is different. Some find the transition easy, some don’t - there’s no right or wrong. Keep your other computer around until you’re sure that an iPad is sufficient.

Enjoy!
 
I did briefly consider the 12.9 inch ipad pro but I wanted to be able to use it around the house.

people exaggerate the 12.9s size, when I unboxed mine 2 days ago I was like oh it’s not that big, after hearing reviews and forums I thought it would be too big, but it’s really really not. I can’t imagine multi tasking on the 11 as even on this I wish I had more space....
 
I still use a MBP for work. I also have the 2020 12.9 in iPad Pro. When I find I need to do work on my iPad, I am always pleasently surprised. I have always kind of seen iPads as my ‘hobby’ or fun device. Just for games and editing some videos. This, as my first Pro is prooving to be very capable. I can do like, 90 percent of the things I would need to do at work on it. One of our backend video platforms still uses Flash. Once that transitions, this will be my go-to I think!
 
I started out with the very first iPad Pro 12.9 and never looked back. Upgraded last year to the iPad Pro 2018. I like that size because it's pretty much the same size as an A4 notepad (Letter size-ish in USA) and I am much faster taking notes by handwriting rather than typing. Plus I can throw in little diagrams and sketches immediately - try doing that on a laptop!
Rather than go to the extra cost of cellular model, can you just simply pair it with a phone? Saves a lot of money and does the same thing.
For my original iPad I had the Apple keyboard / case..... am saving up for the new Magic Keyboard for the new one. Keyboard (off-screen) much better for Word, email etc.
Good luck!
 
Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing
Another full-time iPad user here. :)

My 2018 12.9-inch iPad Pro has been solid since the day I got it.
 
I don’t even look at MacBooks or laptops anymore. I do love using only my iPad Pro 12 with MK. Only one device and iphone is perfect and cheaper.
Re: the question about cellular plans, with my particular Verizon unlimited plan, adding a tablet is $10 a month. They just changed their plans, and I managed to actually save 5 dollars a month and also increase my hotspot data.
 
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Me! But to be honest, I don’t really require much heavy lifting on any device. I was iPP for a while before, then I got an iMac to use for working from home (big photography programs I couldn’t run from an iPad), but I no longer have that job, and my only other holdout was photo books, which I’ve now found a way to do from my iPP, so I sold the iMac, and I’m back iPP only.

The Magic Keyboard is just awesome, and I love my setup - use at the table or desk with the MK, or take it off and use sitting in my chair or on the couch. I did put a skin on the back so I wouldn’t worry about scratches when I’m using it caseless, and I always use screen protectors.
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Hey, I'm new here. I am contemplating and near convinced to try Ipod Pro as a full time system instead of Ipod air and also buying a new laptop. My chromebook won't hack it while I'm in NP school, starting this fall. My biggest questions are thus:
1. I'm thinking of going with a cellular model so I can take my Ipad out in the field and study. How much do most folks spend on their data plans?
2. Keyboard... I want something fully protective and I want something versatile. The magic keyboard would be perfect accept for the cost and that it doesn't fold back on itself. I don't know why I would want it to do that, but for some reason I do.
3. Super psyched about this impending transition and ready to reset my mind frame about how I approach and use technology. Any advice or support from others who have switched to Ipad full time much appreciated, especially regarding other accessories. For starters I am planning on getting a keyboard of sorts, pencil, airpods. What else do I need?

Cheers yall! Thanks for playing

I have a cellular model. We don’t have good internet where we live, so I always get my devices with cellular. It’s nice when traveling also. I could use my phone as a hotspot, but hotspot data is limited, and I hate worrying about that.
 
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