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CharlesJunior07

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salamanderjuice

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I don't think the Windows 11 installer checks if the CPU is on the supported list. You should just be able to download the Windows 11 ISO and upgrade that way. Rufus can also create an ISO that bypasses the TPM check if your PC lacks that too
 

okkibs

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You can just install Windows 11 from a USB thumbdrive and Windows 11 will run just fine. Microsoft does not officially support some devices like yours but that just means they didn't bother testing Windows 11 with older hardware. It will likely not run into any issues and if it eventually does then Windows 11 still allowed you to extend the useful life of this device for some time.
 

maflynn

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What do you mean by "bypass"?
It seems rather clear that OP is looking to install windows on a machine that failed the hardware requirements.

If you look at the screen shot it states the issues, I put arrows to help direct your attention to the issue
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Roadstar

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Check if BIOS/Efi is up to date. My desktop PC initially said it’s incompatible, but after updating to the latest BIOS Win11 installed smoothly.
 

okkibs

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It seems rather clear that OP is looking to install windows on a machine that failed the hardware requirements.
Well it turns out it's not so clear, the tool is simply wrong. You can install it just fine, Microsoft just didn't test this older CPU generation. The tool fails for many older computers on which Windows 11 runs fine. All OP needs to do is ignore the wrong information.

Ah, well spotted. That one isn’t going to run Windows 11 without additional tricks.
AFAIK it does not require any tricks. Windows 11 works just fine. Microsoft simply never tested that old CPU generation.
 

maflynn

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Well it turns out it's not so clear,
You literally asked by bypass. I answered in that he was trying to install windows and bypass the system check. Whether its easy or hard is immaterial, you didn't post anything about the complexity, but instead asking what the OP was trying to do - which I answered
 

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Well it turns out it's not so clear, the tool is simply wrong. You can install it just fine, Microsoft just didn't test this older CPU generation. The tool fails for many older computers on which Windows 11 runs fine. All OP needs to do is ignore the wrong information.
The tool tells you whether the hardware is supported, not whether Windows will run. Untested CPUs are not supported, so the information isn't wrong.
 
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BrianBaughn

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It seems rather clear that OP is looking to install windows on a machine that failed the hardware requirements.

If you look at the screen shot it states the issues, I put arrows to help direct your attention to the issue
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I've had a similar message on our Windows machine and have never tried to install Windows 11.

I'm pretty sure W10 will be supported until some time in 2025. August, I think.

If one wants to remove the nag I don't know if there's an answer.
 

maflynn

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If one wants to remove the nag I don't know if there's an answer.
Given that its a CPU compatibility and that there's no material differences between win10 and win11, the OP would be better to stick with win10
 

UliBaer

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Microsoft tells you how:

In corporate environment this is also recommended:

On a 7th generation cpu there should be no problem with Windows 11, cause the instruction set didn't change from 7th to 8th generation. Myself having installed Windows 11 on an i7-7500u and running fine!
 

jb310

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I don't know if it's changed now, but a year or two ago, it was possible to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware by joining the Windows Insider program and setting your computer to use software from the Dev channel (or whatever channel had the newest, most experimental builds).
 

okkibs

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The tool tells you whether the hardware is supported, not whether Windows will run. Untested CPUs are not supported, so the information isn't wrong.
Claiming unsupported merely means that no technical support is provided is wild if not to say an argument in bad faith.

Microsoft's tool specifically tells the user that the computer does not meet the system requirements. How do you arrive at your conclusion that the tool doesn't tell you whether Windows will run? It's clearly misinforming the user. Since Windows 11 runs just fine it obviously meets the system requirements. The tool could instead either clarify or simply state it can't evaluate the system due to old hardware.

Microsoft chose to do it the way that will make people think they'll need to buy a new computer.
 

Nermal

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I think we're just interpreting things differently. You're seeing it as "absolute requirements" and I'm reading it as "documented requirements". I'm certainly not trying to argue about it :)
 
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maflynn

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I think we're just interpreting things differently. You're seeing it as "absolute requirements" and I'm reading it as "documented requirements". I'm certainly not trying to argue about it :)
In the past CPU requirements tended to be more on the absolute side of things, though from what I've read recently, the 8th gen cutoff was seemingly arbitrary and it may be possible to run win11 on an older cpu.

If it were me, I'd ask myself what does win11 give me that windows 10 doesn't and at what cost, i.e., will it be significantly slower or introduce instability?
 

I7guy

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If it were me, I'd ask myself what does win11 give me that windows 10 doesn't and at what cost, i.e., will it be significantly slower or introduce instability?
Longevity. I have a system I build a couple of years ago using a 10th gen intel CPU. While this isn't the latest and greatest the system should be able to run win 11 from a hardware point of view I need to reconfigure the boot loader and change the boot partition. Something I'm not willing to do at this point. Blah!
 
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maflynn

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Longevity. I have a system I build a couple of years ago using a 10th gen intel CPU.
I guess the question is how much longevity should the OP expect from a 8 year old CPU?

While this isn't the latest and greatest the system should be able to run win 11 from a hardware point of view I need to reconfigure the boot loader and change the boot partition. Something I'm not willing to do at this point. Blah!

Are you making the case for the OP to stick with windows 10? From what you wrote, it appears that you want to remain on windows 11 and not worry about future operating systems given the issues with the boot loader - he can do that if he chose to stay with windows 10. The difference between your example and the OP's situation is he's trying to circumvent the hardware check. Its quite possible that a future update could cause issues with stability and useability.

I'm not saying his machine will get bricked down the road, but there are risks for forcing an operating system onto a computer that it does not support
 

BrianBaughn

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throAU

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If you install from Windows 11 media (as opposed to upgrading) you can get around this (I've done it on several machines to test with). i.e., clean install, not upgrade.

HOWEVER:
Microsoft have announced that there's no guarantee that patches will not break your computer moving forward if you are on unsupported hardware.

If you want to run a supported OS in a reliable manner moving forward, your choices are:

  • Run Windows 10 until end of support
  • Switch to Linux (or some other alternative platform)
  • Upgrade your machine.
Unless you upgrade your machine, there's no guarantee windows will continue to work after monthly windows updates, even if you get 11 installed fresh from bootable media.
 
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