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jjahshik32

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Just curious as to how the ssd fairs against the 4200rpm model...

I've experienced the 1.6ghz/80gb model and the fan noise is the only reason that I returned it..

How are your fan speeds?? I know the 4200rpm especially at 1.8" is the huge bottleneck so maybe with an ssd drive the whole experience is much much different. All I know is that on my samsung ssd drive in my mbp it is faster than my 7200rpm hitachi travelstar 7k200 and even fast as my raptor drive.

Basically the ssd is the speed of my raptor.
 

netdog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Don't get me wrong. I think the 80GB model is great. When I tried them extensively in the store, I didn't really find much between them either and so I initially bought the stock 1.6 80. After having had the 80 for a couple of weeks, I think swapped it out for a 1.8 SSD model and it really is quite a bit smoother. There was a bit of a drag with the HD that I don't experience with the SSD, and there is now no fan noise.
 

wolfie

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i experience hearing the fan whizzing up and saying when im doing something that require a bit of effort, having said that, the most taxing thing ive doe to this system is using it on skpype and webcam and it stirs the fan up.

everything else is smoth, i cant speak for comaprion reasons with the hard drive model but everything is is really snappy and have absoultey no issues with it.

The things i do on the air is simply, web browsing, chat, itunes management on my iphone, all my travelling photos, and the odd 2d game i find on the apple website, as you see none of them really push the computer so i rarely hear the fan, mybe someone else can comment more accurately.
 

jjahshik32

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Since I've sold my 17" mpb and have the funds I might opt for the ssd version of the mba if the fan noise is much quieter than the 80gb hdd version.
 

LizKat

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On my Air, the fan sits at 2500 almost all the time. But, I don't ask much of it. I got it for lightweight activities - to edit text, surf, watch a movie, play music, fetch a file or two off another machine on my network, etc.

I do love how quiet it is with no mechanical drive. Not to mention the almost startling wakeup routine, where it just pops on silently and instantly, the way a room lights up when you hit the light switch.
 

aussieinrome

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Apr 5, 2008
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Rome, Italy.
Ssd!

Hi,

I've got the SSD and if you read around this forum it seems that the build quality of the SSD model appears to be better, only the HDD model owners seem to report problems with fan noise, CPU shutdown, distorted cases and screen blotches.

The SSD is incredibly fast, it improves the entire user experience. I will never get another laptop with a HDD again, a hybrid maybe (SSD HDD mix).

Ciao!
 

jjahshik32

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On my Air, the fan sits at 2500 almost all the time. But, I don't ask much of it. I got it for lightweight activities - to edit text, surf, watch a movie, play music, fetch a file or two off another machine on my network, etc.

I do love how quiet it is with no mechanical drive. Not to mention the almost startling wakeup routine, where it just pops on silently and instantly, the way a room lights up when you hit the light switch.

even runnning youtube videos for more than 30 minutes and demanding webpages as well keeps the mba at 2500 rpm?? If thats yhe case then I think I might try buying the 1.8/ssd and try it out.
 

NC MacGuy

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The flippin' cost! I'd love to have a ssd model but can't justify the price today. I plan on using mine up to the time the prices come down and upgrade myself.

The 1.8 should actually be hotter than the 1.6. Same guts, heatsink, fan.. Only difference is the drive and if my istat is correct, my HDD is usually running in the 30º's while proc. hovers in 50º's and fan 2500-3400 topping at 6200 doing same things that cranked up my old MB's fans.
 

jjahshik32

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The flippin' cost! I'd love to have a ssd model but can't justify the price today. I plan on using mine up to the time the prices come down and upgrade myself.

The 1.8 should actually be hotter than the 1.6. Same guts, heatsink, fan.. Only difference is the drive and if my istat is correct, my HDD is usually running in the 30º's while proc. hovers in 50º's and fan 2500-3400 topping at 6200 doing same things that cranked up my old MB's fans.


Yea I agree with you, I would imagine that if I were to opt for the ssd model of the mba and even if it didnt exhibit any fan/heat/whateve issues and was perfect, I couldnt justify its cost.

Especially when for at the same price or a $100 cheaper I could grab a 17" 2.5" mbp or macbook with a 23" acd and buy many other toys.

What I really want is a macbook but I really want an led backlit on the macbooks. Ill just have to wait until june to purchase my notebook.
 

smaug

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Mar 26, 2008
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I have the SSD model and run coolbook. No fan or heat problems. But, the performance is the key here. The SSD is REALLY fast, especially when it comes to paging VM. It is almost like having 64GB of RAM. (I know that the SSD is no where near as fast as physical RAM, but keep in mind that VM is paged in 64k chunks, which is the file size that the SSD is fastest at (15-25x faster than a disk) and a SSD has almost NO seek time). In everyday use my Air is FASTER than my 2.4 Ghz MBP.
 

aussieinrome

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Apr 5, 2008
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Rome, Italy.
I have the SSD model and run coolbook. No fan or heat problems. But, the performance is the key here. The SSD is REALLY fast, especially when it comes to paging VM. It is almost like having 64GB of RAM. (I know that the SSD is no where near as fast as physical RAM, but keep in mind that VM is paged in 64k chunks, which is the file size that the SSD is fastest at (15-25x faster than a disk) and a SSD has almost NO seek time). In everyday use my Air is FASTER than my 2.4 Ghz MBP.

As I wrote on the other post, do you know the lifespan of the SSD in the Air?
 

jjahshik32

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As I wrote on the other post, do you know the lifespan of the SSD in the Air?

All I know is that the life span on an ssd is something like a 100 years so u uave no worries. If you google you can find several other forums with explaining and pretty much the jist of it is 100+ years or well beyond your laptops life.
 

bobertoq

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Feb 29, 2008
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Don't get me wrong. I think the 80GB model is great. When I tried them extensively in the store, I didn't really find much between them either and so I initially bought the stock 1.6 80. After having had the 80 for a couple of weeks, I think swapped it out for a 1.8 SSD model and it really is quite a bit smoother. There was a bit of a drag with the HD that I don't experience with the SSD, and there is now no fan noise.
that clears everything up for me :D thanks
 

aussieinrome

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Apr 5, 2008
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Rome, Italy.
All I know is that the life span on an ssd is something like a 100 years so u uave no worries. If you google you can find several other forums with explaining and pretty much the jist of it is 100+ years or well beyond your laptops life.

Dude! 100 years! I thought SSD drives could only stand so many writes before they would stop working?
 

aussieinrome

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Apr 5, 2008
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Rome, Italy.
I don't think anybody really knows the lifespan of the SSD. Time will tell. This is also true of the HDD PATA drive being used in the non-SSD Airs. They do rate them in hours, r/w sequences, etc. but real life may be quite a bit different.

I love your pic! A comic genius!
 

jjahshik32

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Dude! 100 years! I thought SSD drives could only stand so many writes before they would stop working?

i dont remember the exact number of hours that the ssds write are but I do remember that the number was so high that if u calculate it u would have to write constantly 24/7 which would last 60-80 years and if u would cut it by half (12/7) its something like 100+ years. I can find the links but no copy and paste on my iphone (only thing I wished the iPhone had).
 

aussieinrome

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Apr 5, 2008
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Rome, Italy.
i dont remember the exact number of hours that the ssds write are but I do remember that the number was so high that if u calculate it u would have to write constantly 24/7 which would last 60-80 years and if u would cut it by half (12/7) its something like 100+ years. I can find the links but no copy and paste on my iphone (only thing I wished the iPhone had).

That is mind blowing, I for some reason (most likely ignorance) thought that it's lifespan would be something like 3-5 years... This is incredible to discover...
 
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