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RedlegsFan

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I can’t wait to until someone actually can test the new M1 iPad Pro 12.9 with the old Apple Smart Keyboard case to see once and for all if it will work fine
 
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isoft7

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It's always important to caveat all statements here with background... I currently own a 2020 iPad Pro, I also used to own the 2018... and I plan to buy the new one tomorrow, I'm deep in lol, but come on... Apples website is basically propaganda. That doesn't inform consumers on what they're actually getting.
 

Mcckoe

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It's always important to caveat all statements here with background... I currently own a 2020 iPad Pro, I also used to own the 2018... and I plan to buy the new one tomorrow, I'm deep in lol, but come on... Apples website is basically propaganda. That doesn't inform consumers on what they're actually getting.
doesn’t inform you on what your getting? It is custom silicon, with a bunch of Cameras, Ram, Storage, and sensors; all of which Apple touts with interactive mechanical breakdowns. What more could you possibly want to know about the device?
 

isoft7

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doesn’t inform you on what your getting? It is custom silicon, with a bunch of Cameras, Ram, Storage, and sensors; all of which Apple touts with interactive mechanical breakdowns. What more could you possibly want to know about the device?
Performance.

It's like buying a car without having a chance to test drive.
 
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UltimateSyn

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May 17th/18th/19th. Pick one for the iPad and one for the iMac.

Really wish they would’ve let that embargo up before pre-orders instead of availability, especially since supply will be limited and those 12.9” Pros will probably be back-ordered several weeks or months by the time reviews go live.
 
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isoft7

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It's like buying a car that hasn't been launched yet .... you can always wait til it's launched tho.
Fair point... but Apple is putting the hard sell on it this year with their "shortages" talk, you kind of sort of have to jump blindly. But yeah, fair.
 

isoft7

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Given your Apple history, it looks like you are buying on autopilot every year. Why should this year be any different for you?
Regardless to my purchasing decisions, I'm just commenting on the state of consumerism these days, myself included. This isn't an Apple exclusive methodology either, a lot of companies that release very expensive products won't let anyone review them until after their presell period is over and it's more or less sold out.

It's reasonable to both consume Apple products and wish their format was different.
 

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Regardless to my purchasing decisions, I'm just commenting on the state of consumerism these days, myself included. This isn't an Apple exclusive methodology either, a lot of companies that release very expensive products won't let anyone review them until after their presell period is over and it's more or less sold out.

It's reasonable to both consume Apple products and wish their format was different.
If Apple didn't have a video event, post specs on their site, and offer 14 day no questions asked return policy, your prior post would have some merit.
 
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isoft7

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If Apple didn't have a video event, post specs on their site, and offer 14 day no questions asked return policy, your prior post would have some merit.
Part of being an informed consumer is hearing the opinion of independent analysis, you can't trust a trillion dollar company to provide the reality of the products value. That's just common sense.

My feelings have plenty of merit. If a company has confidence in a products marketability why wouldn't they put review models in the hands of every major outlet available?

Think of it this way, sure I plan to buy one because I'm an Apple fan, but what if I was on the fence and wanted to buy a tablet but wasn't sure I needed this one, so I decide to wait until the reviews come out. Weeks from now the reviews hit the outlets and even though I like what I see I can't find one in stock, so I buy a Samsung Tab S7 instead.

There's no argument you can make that truly supports the idea that seeing reviews prior to release is bad for consumers, you just can't. Unless your goal is to just be a contrarian, in which case, you can do so, but that still isn't a valid argument against the conversation.
 

the future

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Regardless to my purchasing decisions, I'm just commenting on the state of consumerism these days, myself included. This isn't an Apple exclusive methodology either, a lot of companies that release very expensive products won't let anyone review them until after their presell period is over and it's more or less sold out.

I agree that it would be nice but (honest question) is it really a new thing, defining the „state of consumerism these days“? In other words: was it different before? Have there usually been independent reviews of Apple products before those products were released? And if so, when did this stop?
 

acorntoy

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Fair point... but Apple is putting the hard sell on it this year with their "shortages" talk, you kind of sort of have to jump blindly. But yeah, fair.
I waited a month and a half for my 2020 which wasn’t an upgrade to most people. The refreshed 12.9 is gonna be scarce.
 

PBG4 Dude

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Performance.

It's like buying a car without having a chance to test drive.
Apple gives everyone 2 weeks to test drive their new purchase. What do you mean “without having a chance to test drive”?

Less than 1 hour until they go on sale and I’m still debating whether or not to preorder LOL.
 
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Mcckoe

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Performance.

It's like buying a car without having a chance to test drive.
Performance, Like tech stats? Because they are all listed. Estimated percentage increases from last generation; those are there too.

And if you need to ”test drive” what an iPad Pro can do before your buying it. Go to a store and play with an older version… you’ll get the idea… it isn’t that different.

If your talking about benchmarks, Passive M1’s aren’t new(MBA) and their scores should be about the same; if anything iPadOS will be able to squeeze a bit more than OS, but those benchmarks won’t take that into account.
 

isoft7

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Me thinks some here are a little too infatuated by Apple products to be clear minded about my opinion hah.

I'm not slamming Apple so chill.

I'm simply saying reviews would be nice before orders began.

The fact that people are trying to argue against that is, well, frankly... ridiculous.
 

seajewel

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Me thinks some here are a little too infatuated by Apple products to be clear minded about my opinion hah.

I'm not slamming Apple so chill.

I'm simply saying reviews would be nice before orders began.

The fact that people are trying to argue against that is, well, frankly... ridiculous.
Yeah I do not get this reaction against your point. I too would have liked reviews before I order. I mean, I ordered anyways, but I also checked every morning for reviews because I DO want to see pictures and updates on how Center Stage works - the apple store rep said it won't work to make it look like I'm looking at the camera properly in landscape mode, which is a big bummer and one of the updates I really wanted this year. It makes it so I don't use the iPad for video conferencing because it simply isn't properly set up for v/c in the configuration it is in 99.9% of the time for me (landscape, in the keyboard cover).
 
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