Any truth to the Huawei security concerns?

[TSE]

I'm just curious what concrete facts or events that have actually occurred that make the government and military concerned with Huawei or other foreign manufacturers products? Has there ever been a consumer product sold in history used to spy on other countries?

 

[phoneme]

there are no concrete facts. the US wanted huawei to give them a back door into there phones, and they said NO. so all this hype is about the US getting made because finally a company stood up to them and said NO. huawei is now #2 in smartphones they took that spot from apple just think about which spot they would be if the US allowed them to be sold in US. they are still one of the preferrd networking security chips for some of the top 500 compaines. and there phones are arguably the best out there today. phone with the best battery life, fastest face unlock, fastest finger print reader, secure space feature which allows you to have 2 totally separate eco systems so it's like having to 2 phones.

 

[Kanyay]

There have been some credible sources that claim the devices include spyware (simply google search will give you all the sources you need). However, most Android phones already do this by default (like tracking you). Huawei takes it one step further and there are claims their intent is to spy on Americans. Would not be far fetched considering what China has been doing lately.
I wouldn't ever purchase one. I'd rather keep my privacy with iPhone.

 

[phoneme]

if you think you have total privacy with your iphone. there is no need to even try to convence you otherwise you have already drink the koolaid. nobody really knows the whole story so just assume no matter what device you use the chances are. if they want to track you they will. but to blindly choose a device because you think you are safe is just plain nonsense.

 

[c0ppo]

I'm just curious what concrete facts or events that have actually occurred that make the government and military concerned with Huawei or other foreign manufacturers products? Has there ever been a consumer product sold in history used to spy on other countries?

No evidence at all. But one military power that doesn't want to use tech from another military power is understandable. China would spy on US officials, that's for sure. They probably already do. As does US. But US is the only one caught doing so, and US was even spying on their own allies.

But what interest has Huawei or China for regular Joe? How would they benefit in spying millions on ordinary citizens? Because that task is daunting, and it costs a lot of money. So if they are going to do it, they must have some great motive behind that. But whenever I ask for anyone to give motive, no one can. As there are no evidence as well.

Huawei takes it one step further and there are claims their intent is to spy on Americans. Would not be far fetched considering what China has been doing lately.

Claims? How about some evidence? Not far fetched? Sorry, but what has been China doing lately?
US is the one caught spying even on it's own citizens and allies. And the man who managed to get that information out became public enemy number 1. And who took the blame for unlawful spying on their own citizens? Bush? Obama? Some other hi ranking official? No one did of course.

So please, if there are claims, first ask yourself - who is claiming those things? And what facts do they bring to the table? Any evidence?

P.S.
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing americans at all. Just the US government, be it republicans or democrats. But not even that... Because countries spy on other countries. US will always spy on their competitors, as will China on their competitors. It's a natural order of things.

But until some actual evidence is offered, I simply refuse to believe any 'claims' what so ever. Especially if those originate from government, be it US government, China or my own country. I never put my blind trust in any government what so ever.

P.P.S.
And no, I'm not from China, never been there, but hopefully someday I will visit China as well.

 

[Kanyay]

No evidence at all. But one military power that doesn't want to use tech from another military power is understandable. China would spy on US officials, that's for sure. They probably already do. As does US. But US is the only one caught doing so, and US was even spying on their own allies.

But what interest has Huawei or China for regular Joe? How would they benefit in spying millions on ordinary citizens? Because that task is daunting, and it costs a lot of money. So if they are going to do it, they must have some great motive behind that. But whenever I ask for anyone to give motive, no one can. As there are no evidence as well.



Claims? How about some evidence? Not far fetched? Sorry, but what has been China doing lately?
US is the one caught spying even on it's own citizens and allies. And the man who managed to get that information out became public enemy number 1. And who took the blame for unlawful spying on their own citizens? Bush? Obama? Some other hi ranking official? No one did of course.

So please, if there are claims, first ask yourself - who is claiming those things? And what facts do they bring to the table? Any evidence?

P.S.
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing americans at all. Just the US government, be it republicans or democrats. But not even that... Because countries spy on other countries. US will always spy on their competitors, as will China on their competitors. It's a natural order of things.

But until some actual evidence is offered, I simply refuse to believe any 'claims' what so ever. Especially if those originate from government, be it US government, China or my own country. I never put my blind trust in any government what so ever.

P.P.S.
And no, I'm not from China, never been there, but hopefully someday I will visit China as well.

im not here to write a research paper on this. literally 1 google search would answer this for OP. i dont care if OP gets a Huawei phone, as it isn't a breach of MY privacy, only his/hers. im just informing.

 

[c0ppo]

im not here to write a research paper on this. literally 1 google search would answer this for OP. i dont care if OP gets a Huawei phone, as it isn't a breach of MY privacy, only his/hers. im just informing.

Sorry, but saying 'google it' isn't informing anyone, or anything. And you're right, it isn't a research paper either

 

[Queen6]

Far as I can see just smoke & mirrors, personal computing devices are a big step away from communications & networking hardware utilised by military & government, and understandable why that would be strictly controlled.

If you like what Huawei has to offer, just buy it simple as that, their products are excellent. Biggest risk to your security is "you" the end user, certainly not the provider...

Q-6

 

[Kanyay]

Sorry, but saying 'google it' isn't informing anyone, or anything. And you're right, it isn't a research paper either

u right homeslice. lets have OP do his own research on it. one google search will scare anyone from the brand.

let's just say this. If you have to wonder if a country is spying on you thru ur phone and ask about it in a forum, you already know the answer to the question.

 

[George Knighton]

I'm just curious what concrete facts or events that have actually occurred that make the government and military concerned with Huawei....

I do not know the answer to this, but I noted with interest that one of the ways T-Mobile got its Sprint merger done was to guarantee that Huawei (and some other Chinese) products would not be used in the future infrastructure build out.

 

[xraydoc]

The fact that US government contractors are forbidden from using Huawei networking products suggests to me that there may be more to the story than is publicly known.

Personally I wouldn't use one of their products, though I suspect that most of their consumer products are no less-safe than others (Samsung, etc.). It should be easy enough to trace where the traffic goes coming out of one of their cellphones, though who knows what hardcoded backdoors lurk in there.

Yes, backdoors could be present in Apple & Microsoft products, too, and I'm not important enough to spy on, but no need to willingly risk a direct Chinese government backdoor should someone more important than I carry a Huawei phone or use Huawei networking systems in their secure systems.

 

[George Knighton]

Yes, backdoors could be present in Apple....

According to Apple, they cannot get into their own systems at a certain level.

The first time that the FBI wanted iMessages, Apple had to tell them that they cannot do that. Can not do that.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

According to Apple, they cannot get into their own systems at a certain level.

The first time that the FBI wanted iMessages, Apple had to tell them that they cannot do that. Can not do that.

That's just when it comes to unlocking encrypted devices and iCloud logins.

But who really knows what transmitted data they can access.

 

[maflynn]

Ars Technica is being reported: Huawei employee arrested, accused of “high-level espionage” for China

 

[Queen6]

Ars Technica is being reported: Huawei employee arrested, accused of “high-level espionage” for China

Well that seals it, best don't buy anything produced in China...

Politics and reality totally different venues.

Q-6

 

[xraydoc]

Well that seals it, best don't buy anything produced in China...

Politics and reality totally different venues.

Q-6

I don't think he was saying not to buy anything produced in China. But Huawei specifically doesn't have a good track record... banned by US government, selling restricted technologies to Iran, employees spying for Chinese government, etc., doesn't give me faith in the company.