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Any word on '06 editions of iApps?
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I think that in celebration of the new Intel Macs, there are going to be a few upgrades for many of the iApps. I'm hoping for an iPhoto and Finder upgrade, since they suck (to put it bluntly), but hey hey hey, I wouldn't be surprised if we got stuck with the same Finder and iApps.
I'd bet on upgrades, though.
I'd bet on upgrades, though.
I suspect the 06 version of the iApps will be Tiger only so that they can take advantage of some of the Core Image/Video stuff that's in Tiger; I was surprised when there wasn't a post-Tiger update to the iApps so I guess they're waiting for Jan 06.
I think they're more likely to sell copies if the upgrade path to it is a new OS (which many have already bought) as opposed to an Intel Mac which will be limited to a few product lines initially
I think they're more likely to sell copies if the upgrade path to it is a new OS (which many have already bought) as opposed to an Intel Mac which will be limited to a few product lines initially
Core Image and Video versions of the iApps is long overdue. iLife '06 will probably be a huge upgrade. I expect to see lots of Spotlight functionality, Widgets, and Automator scripts bundled with the iLife Apps. iLife should have a website tool added. Websites can be packaged together like iMovie packages.
The most accurate rumors on iLife '06 probably won't appear until close to MacWorld just like prior years.
The most accurate rumors on iLife '06 probably won't appear until close to MacWorld just like prior years.
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My only expectation is for iPhoto to have some of Aperture's features incorporated into the iLife '06 update.
I'll be crossing my fingers.
My only expectation is for iPhoto to have some of Aperture's features incorporated into the iLife '06 update.
I'll be crossing my fingers.
I would expect iLife '06 to be released at MacWorld SF in January. This has been what has happened in the last two years and I wouldn't expect it to be any different. New Macs from then will start shipping with it and there will be an up-to-date scheme for those that don't from that date.
As for Core-Image versions of iLife - I don't really understand the fuss about it. iPhoto 5 effectively uses its own coding of core image to produce the editing effects and so an update would theoretically just kill some of the repetition of code in this respect. Maybe a point update already did that for Tiger users.
However, don't forget that the iApps are generally targeted at consumers, not pros, and these are people who are likely to have iBooks and eMacs and Mac minis, all of which don't support Core Image. So they must be careful not to allow performance to crawl for these machines when updating. (For example, Dashboard crawls on my brother's iBook 1.2GHz, even though it's a full year newer than my PB). My 12" rev B PowerBook does cope with Core Image, but only just as I only have 32MB of VRAM and the old nVidia 5200 GO. I wouldn't want them to be too reliant on it.
As for Core-Image versions of iLife - I don't really understand the fuss about it. iPhoto 5 effectively uses its own coding of core image to produce the editing effects and so an update would theoretically just kill some of the repetition of code in this respect. Maybe a point update already did that for Tiger users.
However, don't forget that the iApps are generally targeted at consumers, not pros, and these are people who are likely to have iBooks and eMacs and Mac minis, all of which don't support Core Image. So they must be careful not to allow performance to crawl for these machines when updating. (For example, Dashboard crawls on my brother's iBook 1.2GHz, even though it's a full year newer than my PB). My 12" rev B PowerBook does cope with Core Image, but only just as I only have 32MB of VRAM and the old nVidia 5200 GO. I wouldn't want them to be too reliant on it.
johnnyjibbs said:
They do support Core Image - just not in real-time like the more powerful graphics cards. You can run FunHouse on a non-CI Mac and you'll still get the effects, they'll just be slower to appear - they have to wait for the CPU to render it rather than the graphics card.
The video version of Funhouse that they showed at the first Tiger WWDC was amazing - put some of those filters into iMovie and people will have a blast. New Macs will support it, Apple aren't going to not give those features to people just for the sake of folks with older Macs not being able to use them. They may limit them as they do with some of the current ones - so Macs that can't handle it don't get some of the effects as they don't in the current iMovie or Keynote IIRC
I understand what you are saying, but I was just speculating that the act of updating some of the effects to rely heavily on Core Image could potentially cripple the performance of effects that ran well before on non-Core Image Macs and thus be a disadvantage of upgrading. I know these people don't need to upgrade but then they wouldn't get the advantage of the new features that will inevitably also be part of iLife '06. I would say that over 50% of the current user base of iLife will be running a non-Core Image Mac and, with current iBooks still not supporting it, I don't think this will change considerably in the future. Not everyone can afford the new iMac.Applespider said:
johnnyjibbs said:
I don't think they think that way (Apple does indeed "think different"). Look at when they got OS X out, if I recall, it required 128 MB of RAM and they were still selling macs with only 64 MB of RAM. Same thing for the support of Quartz Extreme when it got out.
whats Apples policy on updating iLife for people who just bought the latest revisions of Macs that came out last month?
Will they give us a nice friendly free upgrade to iLife 06, or will everyone have to buy the new version regardless?
Will they give us a nice friendly free upgrade to iLife 06, or will everyone have to buy the new version regardless?
JasonGough said:
You'll have to buy it. Macs that are purchased after the keynote that don't include the new iLife (ie. already in the distribution channel) will be eligible for free upgrades. I got iLife '05 that way when my Power Mac didn't come with it even though it was purchased well after '05 came out.