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iHorseHead

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Microsoft Teams is one of the worst apps I've ever used. Pretty often I can't see the shifts and I get: "It's not you it's us" error. Both on my work PC, MacBook Air, personal PC. I have to refresh the page countless of times and the same happens when I go to files and try to open something. I often get "You don't have permission to view this file" error and then I have to refresh the page like 10,000 times to access it.

Why do companies use it? When I try to look for conversations from the past it pretty often just crashes. On Mac as well. It's just awful.
 
Crappy, bloated, non-native Electron app. An awful lot of glitches, regardless of platform. I've trained my user base pretty well on quitting and relaunching the app regularly, and even signing out and signing back in to their Teams account to clean up random problems.

We adopted Teams for voice and video calling and conference calls, and I had to upgrade much of our laptop fleet to keep up with the CPU and RAM demands that Teams puts on a system.
 
My company adopted it because it was effectively free. They were already paying for office, why not get the 1TB of Onedrive and Teams along with it.
What's baffling to me is why they're also paying for Zoom.
 
My company adopted it because it was effectively free. They were already paying for office, why not get the 1TB of Onedrive and Teams along with it.
What's baffling to me is why they're also paying for Zoom.
I don't know what they pay but it's not a bad thing to have a backup system that can be brought online immediately.
 
My company adopted it because it was effectively free. They were already paying for office, why not get the 1TB of Onedrive and Teams along with it.
What's baffling to me is why they're also paying for Zoom.
I don't know why my company adapted it. Before we were using Skype For Business. I understand that the support for Skype for Business is ending, but it was honestly better. I don't know why they chose Teams and it's something I've got no control over.
I am part of many teams with different accounts, so it's mandatory to use an app and also use it via web browser. It sucks on both big time and it's simply just awful.
As I already mentioned I get "It's not you, it's us" error so many times and I have to always refresh it and also when I want to access some files I often get "You don't have permissions to view this file", even though I do and I have to refresh it 9 billion times or type in teams.microsoft.com and start all over again.
When I do speed tests my internet's speed is 500mbps and Teams is still slow on sluggish. Even on Edge It honestly sucks big time. It literally blows on a Mac, on Windows PC and on every single web browser out there. Am I the only one with such problems?

I'm sad that Apple hasn't invented such business oriented apps, such as Teams and I think it's too late.:(
 
I don't know why my company adapted it. Before we were using Skype For Business. I understand that the support for Skype for Business is ending, but it was honestly better. I don't know why they chose Teams and it's something I've got no control over.
I am part of many teams with different accounts, so it's mandatory to use an app and also use it via web browser. It sucks on both big time and it's simply just awful.
As I already mentioned I get "It's not you, it's us" error so many times and I have to always refresh it and also when I want to access some files I often get "You don't have permissions to view this file", even though I do and I have to refresh it 9 billion times or type in teams.microsoft.com and start all over again.
When I do speed tests my internet's speed is 500mbps and Teams is still slow on sluggish. Even on Edge It honestly sucks big time. It literally blows on a Mac, on Windows PC and on every single web browser out there. Am I the only one with such problems?

I'm sad that Apple hasn't invented such business oriented apps, such as Teams and I think it's too late.:(
How and why are you required to use it in the browser?
Just clarifying, you're not allowed or discouraged from downloading and using the native (electron) app?
 
I might try totally uninstalling the app, deleting all the associated caches, and then reinstalling.

I've been using Teams at work for the last year and a half on a 2019 MacBook Pro with literally no problems.

Basically on it all day for audio/video calls, chat, sharing docs, etc. Works flawlessly. I might have to restart it once every couple weeks.
 
How and why are you required to use it in the browser?
Just clarifying, you're not allowed or discouraged from downloading and using the native (electron) app?
I work in an IT Support company and we've got tons of Microsoft accounts and you are required to be signed in with two different Teams accounts at all times and from each account we can also sign in to different accounts as a guest etc. You can't be active at both Teams account at the same time and respond & read quickly.
We use it from a web browser and also the app itself with a different account. I just realised my English is awful. I hope you understood what I meant though.
 
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I might try totally uninstalling the app, deleting all the associated caches, and then reinstalling.

I've been using Teams at work for the last year and a half on a 2019 MacBook Pro with literally no problems.

Basically on it all day for audio/video calls, chat, sharing docs, etc. Works flawlessly. I might have to restart it once every couple weeks.
What if you try to search for a chat in some channel from months ago? Doesn't crash?
 
My company adopted it because it was effectively free. They were already paying for office, why not get the 1TB of Onedrive and Teams along with it.
What's baffling to me is why they're also paying for Zoom.
Same point with my company. You got Office, you get Teams, and it is rather well integrated into the other apps, especially Outlook. A third party solution would probably make even more hassle...
We also pay for Zoom (a small amount) because for conferences with external people, the Zoom functionalities are better. But for internal meetings, Teams does well.
 
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Why do so many people still use slow buggy bloatware like Zoom and Microsoft Teams? Zoom and Microsoft hate people's privacy and couldn't care less about user experience.

Personally I use Viber (https://www.viber.com). It's free, but also secure, private, and privacy-respecting. There is no lag and it's much easier to use. You can call anyone for free. It works on every platform, even Linux:

Starting with Viber 6.0, all of Viber’s core features are secured with end-to-end encryption: Viber calls, one-on-one messages, group messages, private media sharing and linked devices. This means that the encryption keys are stored only on your devices and no one, not even Viber itself, has access to them. To learn more about Viber Encryption, follow this link: http://www.viber.com/en/security.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viber

Oh and Viber is owned by Japanese company Rakuten.
 
Why do so many people still use slow buggy bloatware like Zoom and Microsoft Teams? Zoom and Microsoft hate people's privacy and couldn't care less about user experience.

Personally I use Viber (https://www.viber.com). It's free, but also secure, private, and privacy-respecting. There is no lag and it's much easier to use. You can call anyone for free. It works on every platform, even Linux:



Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viber

Oh and Viber is owned by Japanese company Rakuten.
Because either integrates well with corporate systems, including SSO, scales well, and offers significant support at higher purchasing tiers. Slack does to. Also all three platforms have a wealth of ways to integrate third party apps, particularly Slack and Teams (like, for my team, pagerduty). Also Viber is basically just IM and VoIP, the others do a *lot* more (again especially teams and slack) There's no way we could use Viber, it wouldnt even come close to meeting our needs.

And on the privacy end of things all three platforms I mentioned support corporate IT audit requirements and hosting/confidentiality reqs.

I hate teams with a burning passion, when we moved off slack I was irritated, but it does do what it needs to do, and I'll admit the integration with outlook and office is nice, Viber isnt even in the same category.

Also, did you read the link to the EFF scoring of Viber and security/privacy? https://www.eff.org/node/101713/
 
Most IT departments are full of people who have no idea what they are doing, so they just use whatever Microsoft comes out with. This way, they cannot be blamed if something goes wrong and they can buy support from Microsoft.
 
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