Anyone intrigued by the Nokia 2520?

[Prototypical]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/nokia-lumia-2520-windows-rt-tablet/

Nokia's first Windows tablet, the Lumia 2520, is designed to work anywhere, with a vivid 10.1-inch HD display that is designed to provide the best outdoor and indoor readability of any tablet. Building on Nokia's rich mobility heritage, the Lumia 2520 combines both 4G LTE and Wi-Fi connectivity, a 6.7MP camera, and for the first time ever on a tablet, ZEISS optics, letting people take beautiful pictures - even in low light. The Lumia 2520 runs on Windows RT 8.1 for a highly personal and easy to navigate experience, and also features multiple color choices and fast-charging capability - providing up to an 80% charge in one hour.

The Lumia 2520 also comes with a number of unique software experiences that are exclusive to the Lumia family, including the exclusive "Dragons Adventure" interactive game developed in partnership with DreamWorks Animation. Additionally, the Lumia 2520 includes Nokia Storyteller, a Nokia developed application that introduces a new way to curate and relive images and videos as a story on a map, as well as Nokia Video Director, which offers the ability to edit and get even more creative with videos shot on the Lumia 2520 - as well as content from Lumia smartphones. With integrated HERE Maps, the Lumia 2520 is the only tablet with true offline maps for a fast and reliable maps experience. The tablet also includes an exclusive version of Nokia Music with Mix Radio preinstalled.

The Lumia 2520 pairs with a unique and stylish accessory which offers a great set of benefits: the Nokia Power Keyboard. Offering up to five extra hours of battery life and two built-in USB ports, the Nokia Power Keyboard makes battery life worries a thing of the past. A protective and wraparound cover, the Nokia Power Keyboard includes a fully functional keypad with gesture trackpad, so typing feels as natural as on a laptop. With Microsoft Office and Outlook preinstalled, getting more done on the go is easier than ever.

The Nokia Lumia 2520 will be available in red and white in a glossy finish as well as cyan and black in a matte finish, and is expected to start shipping in Q4 2013 with an estimated price of USD499 before taxes or subsidies. Initial roll out is to begin broadly in the U.S. as well as the U.K and Finland, with additional countries to follow shortly after. The Nokia Power Keyboard will be available alongside the Lumia 2520 at the recommended price of USD149.

I've always been tempted by the Surface, but never cared for the design aesthetic. This could be a solid competitor (for me) against the iPad Air or Mini in the quest to replace my aging iPad 2. I suspect this thread will be filled with anti-Windows 8 diatribes, but if you can get past that... Thoughts?

 

[ChazUK]

Looks absolutely Amazing. Brilliant design by Nokia, great internals.

Should be a very competitive RT tablet. An Atom powered model would have me more interested for those times I wanted to run some legacy x86 apps!

 

[kenknotts]

Windows is garbage, so no.

 

[ucfgrad93]

I have no desire for a Windows tablet.

 

[gotluck]

If it was full windows, yes. Not interested in RT. More intrigued by dells venue offerings.

 

[Stuntman06]

The only thing that Windows tablets have over other is Excel. At least on Android, I have not found a spreadsheet app that is close to tolerable to use.

 

[NuggetSauce]

Software is just as important, if not more important than hardware. The hardware looks great, but I won't be looking to buy the device until it has a decent selection of software.

 

[Fanaticalism]

The only thing that Windows tablets have over other is Excel. At least on Android, I have not found a spreadsheet app that is close to tolerable to use.

Office 365?

 

[Black Magic]

Great hardware design wasted because of crappy software.

 

[watchthisspace]

Software is just as important, if not more important than hardware. The hardware looks great, but I won't be looking to buy the device until it has a decent selection of software.

QFT.

Ideally Microsoft should of made Windows Phone 8 cater for Smartphones to Tablets, much like iOS (okay, exactly like iOS) and kept the Windows Mobile moniker or label is Windows Mobile 8.

That way there's no confusion between Windows Phone 8, RT and Windows 8. Developers can develop apps that scale from Smartphone to Tablet.

Apple got it right, Microsoft should of shamelessly copied it.

 

[aziatiklover]

hardware looks awesome, but RT no thanx.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I'd get an iPad Air over this.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Windows is garbage, so no.

Oh come on Ken... Windows is not garbage. I happen to like Windows 8.1 very much (and liked Windows 7 and XP before it). IMO 8.1 on dual monitors (touch monitors at that) is a very satisfying experience. I am hoping that OSX follows the touch trend soon.
Now, if you had said that Windows RT was about as good as Vista, you wouldn't have gotten much of an argument.

 

[Technarchy]

Great hardware design wasted because of crappy software.

Windows RT is not crappy software. It may be confusing and not make sense in the way Microsoft markets it, but it is not crappy.

 

[TacticalDesire]

If it came with regular windows and not RT I would be more intrigued. I'm more interested in the new dell venue tablets. Especially the 8 pro. Being able to dock it to a larger screen or a station with USB ports and I will buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Giuly]

Looks absolutely Amazing. Brilliant design by Nokia, great internals.

Now it just needs to be rooted and run some distribution of Linux.

 

[paulsalter]

Reduce the price a bit and it would be very tempting

I want a change from iOS/Android and this would do me nicely, but for $650 including keyboard I won't bother (Rather buy a full laptop)

 

[Prototypical]

If it was full windows, yes. Not interested in RT. More intrigued by dells venue offerings.

I don't really understand the "full Windows" argument; does the iPad run full OSX? And are you really going to be running CAD/CAM or SAS on your tablet? The tablet form factor is well suited for the kinds of uses RT is designed to handle. Despite what some analysts say, I don't ever see desktop/laptop computing going away entirely. In my case, the job I do is so Excel/resource heavy that a "full Windows" tablet still wouldn't be able to handle workload.

What does RT lack in productivity software? Honest question, as I haven't used any WP8 or RT products for any extended period of time. A lack of Hipster-gram and Candy Crush apps are meaningless to me though, as are 650,000,000,000 available apps in the app store that are equally unimportant.

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I'd get an iPad Air over this.

You hate the 2520/RT so much that you'd choose an iOS device instead? YOU?!?

 

[gotluck]

I don't really understand the "full Windows" argument; does the iPad run full OSX? And are you really going to be running CAD/CAM or SAS on your tablet? The tablet form factor is well suited for the kinds of uses RT is designed to handle. Despite what some analysts say, I don't ever see desktop/laptop computing going away entirely. In my case, the job I do is so Excel/resource heavy that a "full Windows" tablet still wouldn't be able to handle workload.

What does RT lack in productivity software? Honest question, as I haven't used any WP8 or RT products for any extended period of time. A lack of Hipster-gram and Candy Crush apps are meaningless to me though, as are 650,000,000,000 available apps in the app store that are equally unimportant.

AFAIK there are no downsides to the full windows dell venue line for example. It can do everything RT can and more. For me its more of a why not full windows than why.

I long for the day osx can run on the iPad, then all of iOS' silly restrictions would be gone. Though , knowing apple, they will lockdown osx before any potential integration with iOS products.

Full windows with the latest batch of low power x86 processors sounds like more features with really no tradeoffs to me(vs RT)

If only Nokia would make one of those.

 

[Liquorpuki]

I'd get this over a Surface 2

Only thing is RT has an ecosystem problem. Huge app gap problem like WP8 had last year and I'm not that confident MS will be fixing this within the next year or two.

 

[b166er]

I think it looks great. I may pick up a Windows tablet in the next few months and this would be a contender. I trust Nokia's hardware and design. I'd like something portable and Office ready.

Still, I think the iPad is the best tablet out there. But more for it's app store and the tons of music related apps it offers.

 

[MRU]

Had it been Windows 8.1 and not RT then yes I would have checked it out. The fact that it's RT means it all boils down to app store content, and in that regard Windows is lagging vastly behind Android and iOS.

I actually can not understand Microsofts desire to keep RT when every other manufacturer has abandoned it and opted for Windows 8 (8.1) going forward.

 

[Michael Goff]

Now it just needs to be rooted and run some distribution of Linux.

Because there are plenty of great distributions working perfectly with a good touch-based UI...

I'll tell you when I think of one.

 

[alex2792]

Yup! This is mine day one, I've been waiting for a Windows 8 tablet with Lumia styling and modern CPU. I don't really care that it runs RT since it comes with office and LTE capability is just icing on the cake. I really can't see any reason why someone would buy an iPad over this(or Surface 2 for that matter). iPad is beautiful, but runs a Fisher Price OS that sucks for any semi-serious work so you still end up carrying a laptop.

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Had it been Windows 8.1 and not RT then yes I would have checked it out. The fact that it's RT means it all boils down to app store content, and in that regard Windows is lagging vastly behind Android and iOS.

I actually can not understand Microsofts desire to keep RT when every other manufacturer has abandoned it and opted for Windows 8 (8.1) going forward.

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RT will be merged with Windows Phone in 2014 with a unified app store across x86 and ARM offerings. MS has a great long term strategy with the integration of xbox, PCs and tablets running basically the same OS. This is truly revolutionary stuff where you can write an app and have it run on basically any Windows 8 device (with slight UI tweaks obviously).

 

[Vegastouch]

Apps still lacking but that looks great. I like my Windows 8.1 laptop.

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If it came with regular windows and not RT I would be more intrigued. I'm more interested in the new dell venue tablets. Especially the 8 pro. Being able to dock it to a larger screen or a station with USB ports and I will buy it in a heartbeat.

The only real difference in RT and the full computer(not sure if RT has full Windows but i know ...no office) is you cant add programs to the RT. The Pro has ports for USB which is why for a laptop/tablet i was looking at the Surface Pro and the Yoga 11s,..which i ended up getting. That and the Pro have USB ports and the Yoga also has a HDMI port.

But for just a tablet, the RT would work just fine as i wouldnt be looking to add programs to it and i can still get a bluetooth keyboard for it.

I wouldnt buy anything from Dell except maybe a computer monitor.