I'm pretty tired of Apple Mail. And Thunderbird.
Recent happening:
I've felt many months that I have some mails missing. So I started digging. Found out, that when I tried to move all my Sent from 2015 & 2016 to a new imap box in 19th of April last year, Thunderbird had crashed and somehow lost 97% of those mails. Bring out the time machine backups. Found the e-mails and recovered them. Seems to be that you can't restore them again, in TM disk the folders are named "Recovered ..." and allmost all mails are gone, some still there, dunno why. But I guess this is because next time TM will back up them from their new location.
I found out few years ago, that you could enable Mail to show up duplicate mails, so I immediately started using it, since it explains a lot of weird behavior when copying / moving imap folders.
So, I tried to upload those recovered mails again to the new imap box. And I sweared to myself that I will never ever move emails from folder to folder, always copy, verify that copy is succesful and after that delete the source or move it to some backup location.
Well, once again, Mail has duplicated every restored mail. Once again, copying them to imap and to remove duplicates in Thunderbird.
Then I noticed that amounts of mail does not match in source and destinations. Tiring searching what mails does not get copied. Found out a few. Can't even copy them to another local folder in Apple Mail. Rebuilding does not help. Looking their source shows blank content. Still Mail does show their content and you can even export their attachments. But exporting the whole mail leads to .eml with zero bytes.
Can anybody tell how to recover these recovered mails?
They have disappeared from TM, so I can't do that again.
I have an older TM backup, which was used before the current one, so all the emails should be there, but I don't want to use TM if it removes them from the backup.
Deleting Envelope Index doesn't seem to work anymore with V4? (I'm running macOS10.12)
Mail starts with no rebuilding after deleting Envelope Index.
After writing this, I'll boot the mac and check again, this is weird.
What would be nice when having over 100k mails for about 30 years, is to have some reliable method to move them when needed. I could still keep using Apple Mail & Thunderbird on daily basis for reading & writing, but these are too unreliable for handling big masses.
One mail admin recommended imapsync.
I will start using it, if I can't find anything else, but is there anything like it, but with a GUI?
And can I use imapsync to also upload local mail to imap? Are Apple Mail's folders in suitable format for it?
Please help.
Recent happening:
I've felt many months that I have some mails missing. So I started digging. Found out, that when I tried to move all my Sent from 2015 & 2016 to a new imap box in 19th of April last year, Thunderbird had crashed and somehow lost 97% of those mails. Bring out the time machine backups. Found the e-mails and recovered them. Seems to be that you can't restore them again, in TM disk the folders are named "Recovered ..." and allmost all mails are gone, some still there, dunno why. But I guess this is because next time TM will back up them from their new location.
I found out few years ago, that you could enable Mail to show up duplicate mails, so I immediately started using it, since it explains a lot of weird behavior when copying / moving imap folders.
So, I tried to upload those recovered mails again to the new imap box. And I sweared to myself that I will never ever move emails from folder to folder, always copy, verify that copy is succesful and after that delete the source or move it to some backup location.
Well, once again, Mail has duplicated every restored mail. Once again, copying them to imap and to remove duplicates in Thunderbird.
Then I noticed that amounts of mail does not match in source and destinations. Tiring searching what mails does not get copied. Found out a few. Can't even copy them to another local folder in Apple Mail. Rebuilding does not help. Looking their source shows blank content. Still Mail does show their content and you can even export their attachments. But exporting the whole mail leads to .eml with zero bytes.
Can anybody tell how to recover these recovered mails?
They have disappeared from TM, so I can't do that again.
I have an older TM backup, which was used before the current one, so all the emails should be there, but I don't want to use TM if it removes them from the backup.
Deleting Envelope Index doesn't seem to work anymore with V4? (I'm running macOS10.12)
Mail starts with no rebuilding after deleting Envelope Index.
After writing this, I'll boot the mac and check again, this is weird.
What would be nice when having over 100k mails for about 30 years, is to have some reliable method to move them when needed. I could still keep using Apple Mail & Thunderbird on daily basis for reading & writing, but these are too unreliable for handling big masses.
One mail admin recommended imapsync.
I will start using it, if I can't find anything else, but is there anything like it, but with a GUI?
And can I use imapsync to also upload local mail to imap? Are Apple Mail's folders in suitable format for it?
Please help.