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maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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That's the danger of having one company approve applications for a device as opposed to using an open device. Big brother deems it evil, it gets banished.
 

DoFoT9

macrumors P6
Jun 11, 2007
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London, United Kingdom
apple is awsome. they can do what they want! they own. :D

nah but seriously: its hard to draw a line where they want control vs usability. i think this instance has shown the app has JUST crossed the line and they dont want it to happen again, or want an excuse for further times..
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
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3,003
St. Louis, MO
Jon Stewart was right.

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belvdr

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apple is awsome. they can do what they want! they own. :D

nah but seriously: its hard to draw a line where they want control vs usability. i think this instance has shown the app has JUST crossed the line and they dont want it to happen again, or want an excuse for further times..

Problem is where is that line? From my non-insider view of Apple, it doesn't seem to cross any lines, or it wouldn't have been approved for the first couple of revisions. It stinks when the rules change and nobody knows.
 

DoFoT9

macrumors P6
Jun 11, 2007
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London, United Kingdom
Problem is where is that line? From my non-insider view of Apple, it doesn't seem to cross any lines, or it wouldn't have been approved for the first couple of revisions. It stinks when the rules change and nobody knows.
unfortunately that is what happens in a closed organisation/company (which ever one they are).

apple is entirely closed, they always have done what they want - and thats why i think MOST of their systems (osx, computer reliability, ipods, etc) are more superior. the initial price pays off in the end.

i digress, i think apple feels threatened by companies that make a better/more innovative product then them, and then do what they want.
 

HiVolt

macrumors 68000
Sep 29, 2008
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Toronto, Canada
Wow. Apple is so wrong here...

I remember back in the day when the App Store was first introduced, and the approval process was explained... They never explained this ********, but touted that it would create safe & secure apps for people to use.

What the hell is wrong with that application? It looks great.

That guy should friggin sue, but I'm sure all the ******** in the contract has Apple covered.

This is anti competitive, anti trust behavior. Apple needs to be brought down to earth.
 

pooryou

macrumors 65816
Sep 28, 2007
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When they pull apps for spurious reasons like this, they should also consider the effect on users who have bought the app and can not get updates in future (for OS4 for example).

I can see if something gets pulled because of developer shenanigans, such as ComicReaderMobi, but in a case like this I think Apple should pay refunds to the users who get shafted.
 

Stella

macrumors G3
Apr 21, 2003
8,883
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Canada
Another reason why regulators around the world need to investigate Apple and AppStore. Apple need to be put in their place - control is too much in the hands of Apple, severely unfair to the developer.
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
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St. Louis, MO
When they pull apps for spurious reasons like this, they should also consider the effect on users who have bought the app and can not get updates in future (for OS4 for example).

Apple doesn't care. It's basically theft IMO, and the DOJ should come down hard on Apple for this. Hopefully everyone who got shafted will file a chargeback with their credit card company, even if it only is a couple dollars.
 

pooryou

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Sep 28, 2007
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Apple doesn't care. It's basically theft IMO, and the DOJ should come down hard on Apple for this. Hopefully everyone who got shafted will file a chargeback with their credit card company, even if it only is a couple dollars.

I think that will ultimately come out of the devloper's pocket, not Apple.

Hopefully Apple will clarify/simplify their policies and sort this out.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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When they pull apps for spurious reasons like this, they should also consider the effect on users who have bought the app and can not get updates in future (for OS4 for example).

I think that will ultimately come out of the devloper's pocket, not Apple.

Not out of the developers pocket but the consumer who paid for something that now got pulled. Both Apple and the developer will now not benefit from the sales, and that hit will be proportionally bigger to the developer but its the consumer who suffers from apple being big brother.
 

belvdr

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This latest rejection really confirms that I made the right choice in not buying an iPad. With the app axe flying, it is likely anything could go for reasons unknown/unexplained, and I'm just not a fan of that.
 

GoCubsGo

macrumors Nehalem
Feb 19, 2005
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I don't think the recent rejection or any rejection should sway your decision to purchase an iPad. It is no secrete that Apple enjoys locking users down and conform to their little world. They used to be more open and forgiving of choice, not so much now. The iPad is still a great device for what it is (a large iPod Touch) and this rejection as well as future rejections don't correlate to why the iPad sucks or why it doesn't suck.

Now take away WOL and remote desktop then we'll talk about the iPad being useless to some people (me for example).
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
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St. Louis, MO
I don't think the recent rejection or any rejection should sway your decision to purchase an iPad. It is no secrete that Apple enjoys locking users down and conform to their little world. They used to be more open and forgiving of choice, not so much now. The iPad is still a great device for what it is (a large iPod Touch) and this rejection as well as future rejections don't correlate to why the iPad sucks or why it doesn't suck.

Now take away WOL and remote desktop then we'll talk about the iPad being useless to some people (me for example).

I think the inability to run certain apps because King Jobs doesn't like them (which seems to be the only reason this app got the axe) contributes to the suck factor. The iPad can do a lot, but Apple's strict app store restrictions prevent the iPad from doing a lot more.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
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This latest rejection really confirms that I made the right choice in not buying an iPad. With the app axe flying, it is likely anything could go for reasons unknown/unexplained, and I'm just not a fan of that.

I agree with you, but the real question is can you live within apple's walled garden approach. At the moment, 2 million ipad owners can, and countless million iPhone users can as well.

The quality of iPhone/iPad apps is high (yeah there's exceptions) and the volume of apps os mind boggling.

Personally, I'm running on android and it has everything I need or want, but I still can see why the iPhone/iPad is an incredible draw.
 

belvdr

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Aug 15, 2005
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I don't think the recent rejection or any rejection should sway your decision to purchase an iPad. It is no secrete that Apple enjoys locking users down and conform to their little world. They used to be more open and forgiving of choice, not so much now. The iPad is still a great device for what it is (a large iPod Touch) and this rejection as well as future rejections don't correlate to why the iPad sucks or why it doesn't suck.

Now take away WOL and remote desktop then we'll talk about the iPad being useless to some people (me for example).

Hardware is great, from form factor to UI. My issue lies solely with the App Store.

I think the inability to run certain apps because King Jobs doesn't like them (which seems to be the only reason this app got the axe) contributes to the suck factor. The iPad can do a lot, but Apple's strict app store restrictions prevent the iPad from doing a lot more.

This. If I am using an app and suddenly the floor drops out on it because of Apple's invisible policies, then I have a useless device.
 

pooryou

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Sep 28, 2007
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Not out of the developers pocket but the consumer who paid for something that now got pulled. Both Apple and the developer will now not benefit from the sales, and that hit will be proportionally bigger to the developer but its the consumer who suffers from apple being big brother.

You took my quote out of context. I was addressing the subject of chargebacks.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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I was unaware that you were talking about chargebacks. My bad.

Mike
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
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UK
And thats why I refuse to buy an i<device>, unless it is just a normal iPod. And I don't like touchscreen.

I think stuffs gonna get ugly soon.
 

ChazUK

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Feb 3, 2008
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Such a shame. It looks like a cool app.

How he must feel after dining Apple's praises then this happens must be a kick in the balls too.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
I think stuffs gonna get ugly soon.
I doubt it, not when apple is able to move 2 million iPads in 60 days. Most consumers could care less if apple is acting like a dictator. They have their apps and their cool iDevice.
 
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