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Apple.com circa Apr. 4th 1997

World's Fastest Laptop
The blazingly fast (240MHz) PowerBook 3400 gives you state-of-the-art multimedia, advanced communications capabilities, and flexible expansion options. Wow.. amazing ^^!
 
If you think that is jaw dropping, check out the near recent site where you could've gotten a full sized tower for $1499, or when the iMac had desktop class processors. :eek:
 
I was 5 years old in 1997, so I would not have remembered it even if I saw it.

Very interesting though, just goes to show how far Apple has come. :)
 
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......Macworld should be banned for not using the right word. it's snappier!
 
Digital Skunk said:
And how terrible their offerings have gotten.
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Since 1997, Apple has converted its OS to one that is UNIX-based. It converted it personal computers to Intel. It has diversified its hardware offerings to include the iPod, iPhone, Apple TV, and iMac. It has converted its peripheral connections to FireWire and USB. It has converted its monitors to LCD flat panels. It has added the iSight webcam to its product to its products, first as a peripheral and now as a built-in standard feature of its laptops and many of its desktops. It introduced Final Cut Pro which has become the standard for digital video editing.

Oh, the horror!
 
MisterMe said:
Since 1997, Apple has converted its OS to one that is UNIX-based. It converted it personal computers to Intel. It has diversified its hardware offerings to include the iPod, iPhone, Apple TV, and iMac. It has converted its peripheral connections to FireWire and USB. It has converted its monitors to LCD flat panels. It has added the iSight webcam to its product to its products, first as a peripheral and now as a built-in standard feature of its laptops and many of its desktops. It introduced Final Cut Pro which has become the standard for digital video editing.

Oh, the horror!
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and the incredibly annoying iProduct culture
 
MisterMe said:
Since 1997, Apple has converted its OS to one that is UNIX-based. It converted it personal computers to Intel. It has diversified its hardware offerings to include the iPod, iPhone, Apple TV, and iMac. It has converted its peripheral connections to FireWire and USB. It has converted its monitors to LCD flat panels. It has added the iSight webcam to its product to its products, first as a peripheral and now as a built-in standard feature of its laptops and many of its desktops. It introduced Final Cut Pro which has become the standard for digital video editing.

Oh, the horror!
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This gives us people on Macrumors some perspective. I know I complained when the Macbooks left out firewire, or when Apple introduced just the 17" inch Macbook Pro at Macworld.

But overall, when you look at it over a long period of time, we have grown by leaps and bounds. It just seems like Apple Inc. is crawling along when you look at forums daily or weekly. ;)
 
Digital Skunk said:
If you think that is jaw dropping, check out the near recent site where you could've gotten a full sized tower for $1499, or when the iMac had desktop class processors. :eek:
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Wow... on the other end of the scale I got a going away to college gift of a Powerbook Duo 280c in fall '94 for $3700 w/ student discount.

I think the Blackbirds (540c) were going for something north of $5k.
 
That 240 MHz PowerBook sure is blazingly fast.

My iPod touch has a faster processor than that thing. Thank God technology improved.
 
MisterMe said:
Since 1997, Apple has converted its OS to one that is UNIX-based. It converted it personal computers to Intel. It has diversified its hardware offerings to include the iPod, iPhone, Apple TV, and iMac. It has converted its peripheral connections to FireWire and USB. It has converted its monitors to LCD flat panels. It has added the iSight webcam to its product to its products, first as a peripheral and now as a built-in standard feature of its laptops and many of its desktops. It introduced Final Cut Pro which has become the standard for digital video editing.

Oh, the horror!
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Save for the OS and Final Cut, the rest of the industry

DID THE SAME THING BRO!

The computer industry was moving right along with Apple, and Apple wasn't the first to do ANY of the things you mentioned. So chill out.

Secondly, Apple BOUGHT FCP from another company and ported it over to the Mac, not a problem in my book, and IT IS NOT THE STANDARD FOR DIGITAL VIDEO OR ANY KIND OF VIDEO EDITING!

I think you need to lay off the kool-aid. :rolleyes:

p.s. The original post you quoted mentioned the offerings, and you said nothing about Apple's price/performance ratio, base price of systems, diversity of systems, etc. and how they compare to the rest of the market.

SO......

I think you missed the mark by a lot.
 
Digital Skunk said:
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The computer industry was moving right along with Apple, and Apple wasn't the first to do ANY of the things you mentioned. So chill out.

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There are people on this forum who know things. When you say something that is just plain wrong, you will be called on it. Neither I nor anyone else is going to shut up just because you say so.

In your response, you doubled-down on your errors. Apple invented FireWire. Apple developed the iPhone. The competition took another year and a half to offer something comparable. Apple is the only company that offers a consumer operating system based on certified UNIX.

I responded to your one-sentence comment. Found to be in error, you want to expand your one-sentence rant into a general screed against Apple. That is certainly your right. You have your opinion and you have a right to express it. However, you do not have a right to your own facts.
 
MisterMe said:
Apple invented FireWire. Apple developed the iPhone. The competition took another year and a half to offer something comparable. Apple is the only company that offers a consumer operating system based on certified UNIX.
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I know Apple had the firewire before Sony had their IEEE 1394 standard version of firewire. And OSX is a perfect consumer OS from UNIX and the one I have come to love.

As to the iPhone, I would say "yes" to Apple coming up with the iPhone first per se, or a multiple function unit of that quality and scope. At the time, nobody touched them and still the competition is not quite as good.

But definitely others came up with lesser, but still multi-function cell phones before iPhone hit the shelves. The iPhone will probably be the standard to base all super cell phones off of, but Apple did enter that market a little late even though they are #1 in market share today, and rightly so.

But I do know the huge impact the iPhone had since some younger people got their iPhone as their first multi-function cell phone and certainly don't remember anything before iPhone, or probably would be underwhelmed by what came before iPhone from other makers. So to reiterate, they revolutionized multi-function PDA/cell phones, but did not invent the object many call the most dear to their heart.
 
IJ Reilly said:
For the record, Firewire became IEEE 1394 when Apple submitted the spec to the IEEE for certification. They are precisely the same thing.
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I know that, it's just the PC side somehow didn't want to use Apple's "term", "firewire", so they used the IEEE term. :)
 
The page is awesome! I can't say I remember it, but I do know I wanted an e-mate, to compliment my newton.
 
63dot said:
... So to reiterate, they revolutionized multi-function PDA/cell phones, but did not invent the object many call the most dear to their heart.
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You are disputing a claim that nobody made. Digital Skunk lamented Apple's product offerings. In response, I posted some examples of excellent product offerings from Apple. Excellence in product offering does not imply invention. Invention does not imply excellence in product offering. However, no other personal computer manufacturer combines invention with execution better than Apple.
 
MisterMe said:
You are disputing a claim that nobody made. Digital Skunk lamented Apple's product offerings. In response, I posted some examples of excellent product offerings from Apple. Excellence in product offering does not imply invention. Invention does not imply excellence in product offering. However, no other personal computer manufacturer combines invention with execution better than Apple.
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Apple stands alone in their invention, execution, and now, service. The last article I read about Apple service and support put them at an A-, and the next closest competitor was a straight ahead B, or "85" in service rating.

While the service can be better, it's certainly better than Dell Hell. ;)
 
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