Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Original poster
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-li...st-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-20110803-1ian5.html

Apple’s iPhone and iPad patents so broad virtually all major competitors could be targets

Samsung may have to ditch multi-touch

“Apple’s tablet and smartphone patents are so broad that virtually all major competitors could be targeted by the company if it is successful in its legal tussle with Samsung,” Asher Moses reports for The Age. “Intellectual property experts say Samsung would have to significantly hobble the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the Australian market if it hopes to avoid infringing Apple’s patents.”

“Florian Mueller, an intellectual property expert who has been intimately following the smartphone patent battles around the world via his blog, said the patents cited by Apple in this case would have to be declared invalid by the court or ‘Samsung won’t be able to build a Galaxy Tab 10.1 that consumers want to buy,’” Moses reports. “The patents are so broad that they cover the basics of multi-touch gestures – both the hardware and software implementations – and functions like slide to unlock and list scrolling. Mueller said the fact that Samsung had agreed to hold back its launch of the Tab indicated it believes Apple’s case has merit.”

Moses reports, “Kimberlee Weatherall, an Australian intellectual property lawyer, blogger and academic, agreed with Mueller. She said while some of the patents in the case related to specific Apple features – such as the way that lists and websites scroll on the iPhone, including the bounce when you get to the bottom – others were far more general and covered most multi-touch gestures used on the screen. ‘If that [patent] claim is valid, that would be quite a restriction on the look and feel of an alternative tablet,’ she said.”

-------------------------------------------------------------

The Galaxy Tab is already hobbled. Anything more and there's no point to it.
 
Last edited:

kdarling

macrumors P6
One of those Australian patents that Apple is using appears to cover enlarging a photo from a thumbnail gallery and then swiping horizontally or tapping its edges to see more photos from the gallery.

Seriously, Australia?

(Note that the articles are only talking about ramifications for the Australian market)
 
Last edited:

AppleScruff1

macrumors G4
Feb 10, 2011
10,026
2,949
Too bad Alexander Graham Bell wasn't still alive. He could sue Apple for selling a phone.
 

KingCrimson

macrumors 65816
Mar 12, 2011
1,066
0
If the Trade commission rules in favor of apple and shuts down Android/WP7 that will be a huge blow to innovation.
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,240
3,497
Pennsylvania
If Apple wins, they suddenly become a monopoly in the smartphone market, and become liable for anti-trust problems. At least, that's how it would happen in America. idk about Australia.
 

ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
5,393
25
Essex (UK)
Nah, Apple would have gotten permission first, unlike Google and the Android OEMs.

You don't think companies like Motorola, Samsung, SonyEricsson, LG et;al are responsible for some of the foundations that the iPhone was built upon? They are some of the pioneering companies that designed the technology to get us where we are now.

The payout to Nokia should show you how much permission Apple had prior to building the iPhone.

Such a silly statement.
 

voonyx

macrumors 6502a
Jul 19, 2011
842
0
You don't think companies like Motorola, Samsung, SonyEricsson, LG et;al are responsible for some of the foundations that the iPhone was built upon? They are some of the pioneering companies that designed the technology to get us where we are now.

The payout to Nokia should show you how much permission Apple had prior to building the iPhone.

Such a silly statement.

I guess joking doesn't translate well on the internet either
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
What does this want to say? If you don't have a better product than your competition, crush them with patents?

No, I think apple learned its lesson, back in day apple failed to patent many of its products and were unable to truly protect their IP. Now they like every other organization is patenting every small item just to protect their business and products.
 

fireshot91

macrumors 601
Jul 31, 2008
4,721
1
Northern VA
Apple patents every last thing. If any of you guys read Engadget regularly (Not to start a thread on whether they're professional or not), you can see that they have a patent every week. Even things that they don't even want to put in their product..
 

patrick0brien

macrumors 68040
Oct 24, 2002
3,246
9
The West Loop
A patent is just that, a patent, and I've read the patents in question. Yes, it's a weird hobby, left over from my Intellectual Property days.

The part of a patent that matters, is the claims section. Everything else is just explanatory and fluffy. It is the claims that need to be narro enough to be valid and enforceable as a patent, but broad enough to protect the invention without somebody circumventing it.
This is how Microsoft won the case against Apple on the GUI: the patents Apple had were too narrow, and there were some other agreements that fuzzed it further.

Not this time, having read the patents, it's pretty clear what's going on.

Forgive me, but Apple patents are actually interesting, I find myself actually able to visualize what they are claiming.
 

LethalWolfe

macrumors G3
Jan 11, 2002
9,370
124
Los Angeles
I wonder when patent law is going to catch up with technology. IP law in general was originally conceived to be a shield to help protect inventors/creators for a finite amount of time and it's too often being turned into a sword to use against competitors. Apple is not the first nor only company to game the system but it's unfortunate that you almost have to do it in order to compete. I feel like it's similar to performance enhancing drugs in sports. If everyone else is taking them you pretty much feel like you have to as well in order to stay competitive.


Lethal
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.