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jamito02

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I wanted to share my experience of Apple support. I think it’s unique but it won’t surprise me if it’s becoming the norm.



Since March 2019 I had identified what I believed was a problem with my Apple Watch Series 1 battery, which was still under warranty. It was discharging faster than expected but it was sporadic (happening 4-5 times per month) and not easily replicated. I was actively documenting the issue by taking notes and contacting Apple Support when appropriate. By October it had been sent to repair depot twice but they were not able to find an issue and sent the watch back without repairs.



Then in early November the battery drained faster than normal several days in a row, and I reached out to Apple chat support. They wanted to have it inspected again, and this time I opted to take it to an Apple Store, even if it’s an 2 hour drive round trip. I figured I would get to interact with a specialist and they’d be able to help identify the issue. In the past, I dealt with chat or phone specialist. I scheduled an appointment for November 9th.



I arrived at my appointment and the Apple Genius inspected my watch. I explained my issues in detail and he then told me there wasn’t much he could do in the store. They would need to send it to the depot for more analysis. I was displeased because I would have expected that my chat support specialist would have mentioned that and saved me the drive. I didn’t say anything though, and hoped they’d replace the battery this go around. I requested the watch be mailed to me after it was repaired rather than to the store to save me the drive. The Apple Genius granted this request. My next experience was a surprise and left me frustrated and wondering if Apple support isn’t as premium as before.



In the previous depot inspections the watch would arrive the next business day, inspected/repaired that day, and be back to me the following business day. But, to be fair, Apple quotes 3-5 business days for the repair. November 9th was a Saturday so I thought I’d be back with my watch Tuesday or Wednesday. Additionally, I could track the repair online. On November 12th, with no status update online I called Apple support. I figured that Apple would have acknowledged the Watch was received and being inspected and it hadn’t. I was concerned that the watch had been lost in transit. But all I was told that it’s still within the timeframe outlined but I was welcomed to call back the next day. I asked if the item had been shipped from the Apple Store since I didn’t have that information and they said it had on Monday, November 11th. But they didn’t have any other information (I.e tracking numbers or if it arrived).



I called each day that week and got the same response, that we’re still within the repair time frame. The website status hadn’t changed though, it still listed as “Repair Requested”. On Friday I was told I could reach out to the store and they could provided at least the tracking information. He also told me that since the last Monday was a holiday (Veterans Day) that Monday November 18 would the end of the 5th business day and to wait to call Apple Support then. I decided to wait until Monday to call again, but I did call the Apple Store for insight to the shipping information. They couldn’t help me on the phone immediately but said they’d call back. On Saturday they called and left a voicemail. They told me the item had been delivered to the depot on Tuesday November 12th.



On Monday (11/18) afternoon, I called because the website had no change in status. The Apple specialist told me they’d escalate the issue of it not arriving and I’d hear back in 1-2 days. He then said he’d follow up with me on Thursday. My frustration level was starting to escalate, but I never took it out in the folks on the phone. Though I would always explain it.



On Wednesday (11/20) I got an email that said a “shipment inquiry” had started and would take 7-10 business days to complete. I was livid at this point. First, the inquiry had just begun and then it was going to be up to 2 weeks to see what happens. I fired off an email to the support specialist I spoke to on 11/18 and told him that was not acceptable and would like them to replace the watch (a like for like replacement). I received a phone call on Thursday (11/21) but missed it. I didn’t have a direct number for the same specialist so I sent an email with my availability the rest of the day and my availability for Friday. I didn’t get a call back.



Since I hadn’t received a response I fired off an email to Tim Cook. I explained the situation and asked for better service. On Monday 11/25 I received a phone call from Apple Retail Executive Relations. I though, finally someone who could make things happen. That wasn’t the case. She told me she has received my note and would look into it. She wanted 1-2 days to get information from the Apple Store. But she also mentioned she’d be out of the office on Wednesday and Thursday because of Thanksgiving. I said ok. On Tuesday not hearing back I called since I did have a direct number and knew she’d be out of pocket the next day. No news but I’d hear back in Friday.



Friday (11/29) afternoon I received a phone call from the Executive Relations representative. She had heard back from the store and they were still conducting their shipping investigation. However, they do believe the watch is lost and are now going to replace it. I was asked when I could go to the store. I was not happy with that request (remember, 2 hour round trip) but it was the fastest to get my watch back. I said I could go on Sunday. She said ok. She was going to be out of the office on Monday but would check in with me on Tuesday.



I was not able to head there on Sunday (my family, including me, got the stomach flu). But on Monday (12/2) I took some time off of work and drove to the Apple store. Over 3 weeks after I dropped off my watch, they gave me a replacement watch, a Series 3 Aluminum. Before I had dropped off my watch I actually was looking into getting a cellular model. So I politely asked if I could upgrade the watch and pay the difference. They said no but I could trade it in. I looked later that day, it would have been valued at $60-$70, mind you this was a brand new Series 3 still wrapped in its packaging and was retailing at their store for $199. So I took the watch and left the store.



On Tuesday (12/3) I called the Executive Relations and told them I had received my watch. I then told them how I was unhappy with the whole scenario. It took over 3 weeks to resolve the issue they created and then I couldn’t even upgrade the option the offered. She offered me $75 discount on accessory or another Apple product for my inconvenience. I told her I was not going to buy another Apple product because of this support experience but it would be nice if I could get AppleCare+ added to the watch ($49). She said no, I could only use the credit to get a product. I sent an email shortly after that call to Tim Cook updating the situation, acknowledging the case was "closed" but I was unhappy. I did not receive a response.



Overall, I’m displeased and frustrated by the event. But I have an Apple Watch (which I was entitled to since they lost it) and can’t require more from Apple. However, I expect more from the company. Many years ago I had several issues with my MacBook Pro and they provided excellent service. This time, this missed the mark severely. A few of times where I think they could have responded better. (1) When I called on 11/12 and there was no evidence of the watch at the repair depot, they should have inquired if it had arrived and notified me within 1-2 business days that it wasn’t around. (2) On 11/18 they should have acknowledged it was misplaced and issued a replacement (like for like - a refurbished Series 1). (3) On 11/25, Executive Relations should have immediately sent a replacement without inquiring the store as the notes already have the watch in limbo (one could argue a new watch but Apple would not be required to). (4) On 11/29 when they had already decided to provide me with a new Apple Watch Series 3 they should have mailed it and saved me 2 hours of driving. (4) On 12/2 they should have allowed me to upgrade the watch and pay the difference ($100), however they offered a $75 credit the next day so the upgrade should have been an easy “freebie” to make things right. (5) When I asked for a $49 item rather the $75 they had already offered, provide it rather than saying no.



If you got this far, thank you for reading the rant. If you are considering an Apple product now or in the future, just note that the high customer service satisfaction they once had is not there anymore. They don’t necessarily care about making a few people displeased about their experience. And you could be one of them.
 

Moriend87

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Aug 21, 2019
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I wanted to share my experience of Apple support. I think it’s unique but it won’t surprise me if it’s becoming the norm.



Since March 2019 I had identified what I believed was a problem with my Apple Watch Series 1 battery, which was still under warranty. It was discharging faster than expected but it was sporadic (happening 4-5 times per month) and not easily replicated. I was actively documenting the issue by taking notes and contacting Apple Support when appropriate. By October it had been sent to repair depot twice but they were not able to find an issue and sent the watch back without repairs.



Then in early November the battery drained faster than normal several days in a row, and I reached out to Apple chat support. They wanted to have it inspected again, and this time I opted to take it to an Apple Store, even if it’s an 2 hour drive round trip. I figured I would get to interact with a specialist and they’d be able to help identify the issue. In the past, I dealt with chat or phone specialist. I scheduled an appointment for November 9th.



I arrived at my appointment and the Apple Genius inspected my watch. I explained my issues in detail and he then told me there wasn’t much he could do in the store. They would need to send it to the depot for more analysis. I was displeased because I would have expected that my chat support specialist would have mentioned that and saved me the drive. I didn’t say anything though, and hoped they’d replace the battery this go around. I requested the watch be mailed to me after it was repaired rather than to the store to save me the drive. The Apple Genius granted this request. My next experience was a surprise and left me frustrated and wondering if Apple support isn’t as premium as before.



In the previous depot inspections the watch would arrive the next business day, inspected/repaired that day, and be back to me the following business day. But, to be fair, Apple quotes 3-5 business days for the repair. November 9th was a Saturday so I thought I’d be back with my watch Tuesday or Wednesday. Additionally, I could track the repair online. On November 12th, with no status update online I called Apple support. I figured that Apple would have acknowledged the Watch was received and being inspected and it hadn’t. I was concerned that the watch had been lost in transit. But all I was told that it’s still within the timeframe outlined but I was welcomed to call back the next day. I asked if the item had been shipped from the Apple Store since I didn’t have that information and they said it had on Monday, November 11th. But they didn’t have any other information (I.e tracking numbers or if it arrived).



I called each day that week and got the same response, that we’re still within the repair time frame. The website status hadn’t changed though, it still listed as “Repair Requested”. On Friday I was told I could reach out to the store and they could provided at least the tracking information. He also told me that since the last Monday was a holiday (Veterans Day) that Monday November 18 would the end of the 5th business day and to wait to call Apple Support then. I decided to wait until Monday to call again, but I did call the Apple Store for insight to the shipping information. They couldn’t help me on the phone immediately but said they’d call back. On Saturday they called and left a voicemail. They told me the item had been delivered to the depot on Tuesday November 12th.



On Monday (11/18) afternoon, I called because the website had no change in status. The Apple specialist told me they’d escalate the issue of it not arriving and I’d hear back in 1-2 days. He then said he’d follow up with me on Thursday. My frustration level was starting to escalate, but I never took it out in the folks on the phone. Though I would always explain it.



On Wednesday (11/20) I got an email that said a “shipment inquiry” had started and would take 7-10 business days to complete. I was livid at this point. First, the inquiry had just begun and then it was going to be up to 2 weeks to see what happens. I fired off an email to the support specialist I spoke to on 11/18 and told him that was not acceptable and would like them to replace the watch (a like for like replacement). I received a phone call on Thursday (11/21) but missed it. I didn’t have a direct number for the same specialist so I sent an email with my availability the rest of the day and my availability for Friday. I didn’t get a call back.



Since I hadn’t received a response I fired off an email to Tim Cook. I explained the situation and asked for better service. On Monday 11/25 I received a phone call from Apple Retail Executive Relations. I though, finally someone who could make things happen. That wasn’t the case. She told me she has received my note and would look into it. She wanted 1-2 days to get information from the Apple Store. But she also mentioned she’d be out of the office on Wednesday and Thursday because of Thanksgiving. I said ok. On Tuesday not hearing back I called since I did have a direct number and knew she’d be out of pocket the next day. No news but I’d hear back in Friday.



Friday (11/29) afternoon I received a phone call from the Executive Relations representative. She had heard back from the store and they were still conducting their shipping investigation. However, they do believe the watch is lost and are now going to replace it. I was asked when I could go to the store. I was not happy with that request (remember, 2 hour round trip) but it was the fastest to get my watch back. I said I could go on Sunday. She said ok. She was going to be out of the office on Monday but would check in with me on Tuesday.



I was not able to head there on Sunday (my family, including me, got the stomach flu). But on Monday (12/2) I took some time off of work and drove to the Apple store. Over 3 weeks after I dropped off my watch, they gave me a replacement watch, a Series 3 Aluminum. Before I had dropped off my watch I actually was looking into getting a cellular model. So I politely asked if I could upgrade the watch and pay the difference. They said no but I could trade it in. I looked later that day, it would have been valued at $60-$70, mind you this was a brand new Series 3 still wrapped in its packaging and was retailing at their store for $199. So I took the watch and left the store.



On Tuesday (12/3) I called the Executive Relations and told them I had received my watch. I then told them how I was unhappy with the whole scenario. It took over 3 weeks to resolve the issue they created and then I couldn’t even upgrade the option the offered. She offered me $75 discount on accessory or another Apple product for my inconvenience. I told her I was not going to buy another Apple product because of this support experience but it would be nice if I could get AppleCare+ added to the watch ($49). She said no, I could only use the credit to get a product. I sent an email shortly after that call to Tim Cook updating the situation, acknowledging the case was "closed" but I was unhappy. I did not receive a response.



Overall, I’m displeased and frustrated by the event. But I have an Apple Watch (which I was entitled to since they lost it) and can’t require more from Apple. However, I expect more from the company. Many years ago I had several issues with my MacBook Pro and they provided excellent service. This time, this missed the mark severely. A few of times where I think they could have responded better. (1) When I called on 11/12 and there was no evidence of the watch at the repair depot, they should have inquired if it had arrived and notified me within 1-2 business days that it wasn’t around. (2) On 11/18 they should have acknowledged it was misplaced and issued a replacement (like for like - a refurbished Series 1). (3) On 11/25, Executive Relations should have immediately sent a replacement without inquiring the store as the notes already have the watch in limbo (one could argue a new watch but Apple would not be required to). (4) On 11/29 when they had already decided to provide me with a new Apple Watch Series 3 they should have mailed it and saved me 2 hours of driving. (4) On 12/2 they should have allowed me to upgrade the watch and pay the difference ($100), however they offered a $75 credit the next day so the upgrade should have been an easy “freebie” to make things right. (5) When I asked for a $49 item rather the $75 they had already offered, provide it rather than saying no.



If you got this far, thank you for reading the rant. If you are considering an Apple product now or in the future, just note that the high customer service satisfaction they once had is not there anymore. They don’t necessarily care about making a few people displeased about their experience. And you could be one of them.

I read the whole thing and they upgraded you from an series 1 to a series 3. I’m pretty sure you got a heck of a deal and they have no reason to let you upgrade to a cellular version.
 

jamito02

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I read the whole thing and they upgraded you from an series 1 to a series 3. I’m pretty sure you got a heck of a deal and they have no reason to let you upgrade to a cellular version.

That’s fair but they owed me a watch since they lost mine in the first place. They could have sent me a refurbished Series 1 right away and I would have been happy. And I asked to pay the difference for the cellular version, I didn’t tell them I wanted it for free.
 
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Moriend87

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That’s fair but they owed me a watch since they lost mine in the first place. They could have sent me a refurbished Series 1 right away and I would have been happy. And I asked to pay the difference for the cellular version, I didn’t tell them I wanted it for free.

No I get that but you are absolutely right but they upgraded you to a 3 for free. Sell it locally and buy a cellular version. You could for sure get more money for that 3 than you could have for your 1.
 

Apple_Robert

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While it stinks that your original Apple Watch was lost, and Apple failed to call you back when noted a few times, Apple did better than any insurance company would have done. They gave you a free series 3 watch when they didn't have to. You got much more than you were supposed to get.

Complaining that you couldn't pay for an upgrade when Apple was going above what was needed, is nothing more than being greedy, in my opinion.

Apple isn't perfect. They make mistakes like other major retail companies. In this instance, I don't believe you have a right to complain about not getting them to upgrade to cellular, even if you would pay the difference.
 

StumpyBloke

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I don’t think you can paint Apple’s Support as being inferior to what is was from just your experience. However, I think they have handled the situation very poorly regarding timescales.

No way is it acceptable for it to have taken as long as it did. Whilst I appreciate they gave you a series 3, I also believe that as they lost your watch in the first place, they could let you upgrade to the cellular model at your expense. I don’t think you were asking for anything unreasonable there. Just my opinion. Don’t care if anyone agrees or disagrees.
 
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Scepticalscribe

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I took the time to read the entire original post written by the OP, and was expecting a horror story.

For what it is worth, I am in agreement with @Moriend87 and @BasicGreatGuy on this matter.

At the end of the day, Apple replaced the lost watch with one that is two generations better; yes, they took their time (public holidays notwithstanding), and yes, they lost the original watch with the faulty battery, but you are a lot better off (in terms of your Apple watch) at the end of this saga than you were at the beginning when your battery began to show signs of deterioration and failure.

Complaining about not being able to exchange this watch for a cellular version (and yes, I know you offered to pay the difference in price) strikes me as an unreasonable (and entitled) stance, in the circumstances.
 
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staggerlee41

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First off sorry you had to deal with that experience because I think I'd go crazy without my watch for that amount of time! lol

Stuff like this happens, it's not just with Apple, it can literally happen to you any time you make a purchase from any company. Sometimes things fall through the cracks.

They didn't give you exactly what you wanted but they did make it right and upgraded your Series 1 to Series 3--as they should have. Could they have done better by allowing you to pay the difference or even just given you a cellular version of Series 3 as you requested? Perhaps, but they didn't necessarily owe you that. They made it right in my opinion. I do agree with @StumpyBloke however, the time frame for resolution left a lot to be desired.

Personally speaking, my experiences with Apple have been significantly better than may other companies I've dealt with. I've had 4 cases where multiple interactions with Apple Support/Geniuses have been required and they've taken care of me each time. Apple is not perfect, I'm not suggesting they are but again, I do find their customer service to be better than most. How many other companies are you aware of who's CEO's email address is out there for public contact?
 

jamito02

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I don’t think you can paint Apple’s Support as being inferior to what is was from just your experience. However, I think they have handled the situation very poorly regarding timescales.

No way is it acceptable for it to have taken as long as it did. Whilst I appreciate they gave you a series 3, I also believe that as they lost your watch in the first place, they could let you upgrade to the cellular model at your expense. I don’t think you were asking for anything unreasonable there. Just my opinion. Don’t care if anyone agrees or disagrees.

Thank you! This was the biggest reason for the post. The 3+ weeks was way to long. But I wanted to provide the details of the experience so people could see what steps were taken. Folks will be critical because I did get an upgrade and that’s fair. But I didn’t expect an upgrade, I expected timely service as outlined in their work order.
 
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Scepticalscribe

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Thank you! This was the biggest reason for the post. The 3+ weeks was way to long. But I wanted to provide the details of the experience so people could see what steps were taken. Folks will be critical because I did get an upgrade and that’s fair. But I didn’t expect an upgrade, I expected timely service as outlined in their work order.

It is possible that the upgrade was a sort of compensation for the lack of timely service.
 
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Itinj24

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Out of curiosity, if they said right off the bat that they’ll replace your old S1 with brand new fresh out the box S3, but it would take three weeks for processing and shipping, would you be ok with that? I most definitely would.

Anyways, if you haven’t opened it already, leave it sealed, sell it and then purchase the cellular version. You wouldn’t come close to that resale value with your used S1.
 

Scepticalscribe

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Thank you! This was the biggest reason for the post. The 3+ weeks was way to long. But I wanted to provide the details of the experience so people could see what steps were taken. Folks will be critical because I did get an upgrade and that’s fair. But I didn’t expect an upgrade, I expected timely service as outlined in their work order.

I take the point that their service - in terms of the times they had stated when they expected this repair (or examination) to be done - failed to meet the standards that they had set.

However, what would you have preferred as an optimal outcome? A repair (within the time that had initially been suggested - public holidays notwithstanding), or, a replacement of your deteriorating model by one that is two generations more recent (and therefor, presumably better)?

I think that Apple more than compensated for failing to meet the time limits they themselves had set (along with the lamentable fact that they mislaid the watch) by replacing the lost watch (with its faulty battery) by a far better (and more recent) model.

And, while Apple have changed since they became the global giant that they now are, their customer service (in my experience) is still pretty good.

Out of curiosity, if they said right off the bat that they’ll replace your old S1 with brand new fresh out the box S3, but it would take three weeks for processing and shipping, would you be ok with that? I most definitely would.

Agree completely.

I'll go further: I think that the thread title is somewhat misleading, as it suggests that Apple simply lost your watch. I clicked on it expecting to read the sort of consumer horror story whereby a major newspaper is enlisted to chase after a company - cable TV, or bank, or travel company - that has offered horrendous service and, after repeated attempts, has failed to address any of the concerns of the customer in question.

But, that is not what we have here: What we have here is an instance where Apple failed (or were unable) to meet the time limits they had set themselves, and subsequently mislaid the watch, and, subsequent to that, attempted to compensate the customer for the inconvenience caused by offering him a new - and more recent - model of the mislaid watch.

Thus, to my mind, the thread title should reflect what happened a little more closely.
 

sracer

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Thank you! This was the biggest reason for the post. The 3+ weeks was way to long. But I wanted to provide the details of the experience so people could see what steps were taken. Folks will be critical because I did get an upgrade and that’s fair. But I didn’t expect an upgrade, I expected timely service as outlined in their work order.
You have every right to be upset that it took 3+ weeks, trips to the store, phone calls, emails, and chats to get the issue resolved. I don't think anyone is criticizing you for complaining about THAT....

...but you also expected that since they gave you an upgrade that you should be able to pay extra for the cellular model which exposes a sense of entitlement that colors your legitimate complaint a bit.

You posted that you "politely asked if I could upgrade the watch and pay the difference" which doesn't make sense (since this was to simply replace the lost watch) but it was worth trying... but then you said...

"On Tuesday (12/3) I called the Executive Relations and told them I had received my watch. I then told them how I was unhappy with the whole scenario. It took over 3 weeks to resolve the issue they created and then I couldn’t even upgrade the option the offered."

...so you complained about not being able to upgrade the replacement.
 

aevan

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OP, you have the right to be unhappy how long it took them, you absolutely have no right to complain that they didn't give you the option to upgrade to a cellular model. They gave you the closest thing they had to your original watch, but since your own watch wasn't cellular, I don't know how you expected more.
 

staggerlee41

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Just had an interesting experience with Amazon. November 30th I ordered an Echo Dot. Regular price $99.99 and on sale for $59.99. Great. Showed a delivery date of Saturday, December 7th. Order never arrived. Looking at my order I noticed it is marked as delayed because Amazon sent it to a wrong facility. It also says it's being returned to Amazon and that I'd be issued a refund.

After the hoops of going through chat, trying to get Amazon to call me, I had to call them. I got it straightened out--or at least I think so at time of this writing. There's a possibility Amazon will deliver it tomorrow as that's what shows in their system OR they'll issue me the refund for this now. Then I can reorder it when the item becomes available and they'll issue me a credit for the difference.

Two things to point out here.

First as I noted Apple is not alone in making mistakes. Things happen, stuff falls through the cracks, nobody is perfect.

Second, while this is the first time I've really had to work with Amazon's customer service, it's honestly a stark comparison to the type of service I've received from Apple. In all fairness to Amazon, they're attempting to make it right.

None the less, the overall experience in terms of ease of speaking with a human being on the telephone, trying to resolve my issue has not been anywhere near as good as what I've experienced from Apple or other companies for that matter. Certainly not what I expect from a company who's been listed previously as one of the most valuable companies in the world. Also in fairness to Amazon, they are pushing the industry and mistakes will happen. #firstworldproblems.
 
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jamito02

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You have every right to be upset that it took 3+ weeks, trips to the store, phone calls, emails, and chats to get the issue resolved. I don't think anyone is criticizing you for complaining about THAT....

...but you also expected that since they gave you an upgrade that you should be able to pay extra for the cellular model which exposes a sense of entitlement that colors your legitimate complaint a bit.

You posted that you "politely asked if I could upgrade the watch and pay the difference" which doesn't make sense (since this was to simply replace the lost watch) but it was worth trying... but then you said...

"On Tuesday (12/3) I called the Executive Relations and told them I had received my watch. I then told them how I was unhappy with the whole scenario. It took over 3 weeks to resolve the issue they created and then I couldn’t even upgrade the option the offered."

...so you complained about not being able to upgrade the replacement.

Just a point of clarification. When I called I emphasized the timeline and that was the source of my frustration. I did "complain" about not being able to upgrade, but I hope folks here would understand that after that long frustrations can skew's ones "entitlements". I don't think I was entitled to have that option, I was only pointing it out as one of the string of other things that had happened. In reviewing other folks comments I agree with much of what folks are saying. Time has a way of clearing those things up. In the end, I got a watch back. But, I still think Apple could have responded a different way (my preference, even in hindsight, would have been refurbished replacement in my hand after one week).
 

rgyiv

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But, I still think Apple could have responded a different way (my preference, even in hindsight, would have been refurbished replacement in my hand after one week).

Yeah, and the fact that you had to initiate all the following up/getting a timeline, etc...if you hadn't been as diligent as you were, you probably wouldn't have a watch right now.
 

uknation87

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I’m jumping in simply because I read the entire post ?.... I completely agree that the timeline and lost property is unacceptable but in the end, Apple did upgrade your watch significantly.

Being someone who recently upgraded from a S1 to a Nike + S4, I call say that you ended up with a much better product.

As some have said, sell it locally or on eBay and turn around and get the LTE version if that’s what you’re looking for.

Good luck!
 

Illini Al

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In regards to your last paragraph, I personally have not seen a decline in their level of customer support over the years. You having a "bad" experience with them will not alter my business with them, nor how I perceive them. Enjoy your new watch.
 

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In regards to your last paragraph, I personally have not seen a decline in their level of customer support over the years. You having a "bad" experience with them will not alter my business with them, nor how I perceive them. Enjoy your new watch.

Just to further your point, customer service will greatly vary from store to store. It’s never the same. I don’t know how many threads on Macrumors where others bash Apple for declining customer service at a specific store, well, that’s a specific store that somebody experienced, but it doesn’t speak for Apples customer service as a whole. I have three Apple stores in my region, all of which I’ve been impressed with, but it’s the employees that make the difference with their attitude _and_ knowledge, not every store can be compared to each other in terms of what they offer with the caliber of service that Apple strives for.
 

madeirabhoy

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sounds like you got great service, they messed up so they hugely upgraded your watch from one that's basically worthless to one that sells for €260.

I broke my S3, handed it in for repair, the cost is almost a new one so with hindsight i should just have bought a S5.

they said 5 days. it took 3 weeks. got it Sunday. I got an identical but new S3, all fine. its Christmas, things take longer.
 

parseckadet

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Here's my 2 cents. While I agree that the whole situation sucks, it could also have been much worse. My wife was rear-ended back in February. The damage was bad enough that her car was not drive-able, and my wife had a mild concussion. We called our insurance that day. The next day they went to the tow yard and said they would get it towed to a repair shop and that everything would be done in about two weeks. Two weeks later we asked for an update and learned that absolutely nothing had happened and that her car was still at the tow yard. On top of that, our rental car coverage was going to run out in a week and they refused to extend it at all. We eventually convinced them to extend it for an additional week, but it took a total of 9 months before we finally got the check.

All of that is to say, yeah Apple messed up. But at least they made things right in the end, which is more than you can say or MANY MANY other companies out there.
 

sjinsjca

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Sorry you had such a bad experience. Apple has lots of customers and, humans being what we are, a certain percentage of products and transactions will go sour. You're today's lucky example.

The root cause may have been Apple's or it may have been the shipping company's. In the end, Apple owned the situation and gave you a new, upgraded product. It's a good outcome, and better than you'd get from any other company I can think of.

As to why the discount couldn't be applied to anything but a product-- dunno, but sometimes companies including Apple will have odd policies and lock-outs. Example: When they were younger, I had my sons on a monthly iTunes allowance. One did not use his much, and he built up a balance. Could we use it to buy products? Apple: Nope. Seemed like idiocy. But, it is what it is.

As to the upgrade to cellular, it was fine to ask but they gave you the answer I would have expected. Bottom line: Now you have a Watch that is better than the one that went missing, and you can sell it to upgrade if you want and still be ahead of where you were with your Series 1.

I hope that after the annoyance dissipates you come to be happy with the situation.

And I really hope your battery issue is solved!
 
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