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Other Apple: Make a Better Phone!

roland.g

roland.g

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Every year you release a new phone, new features, new chip. Ok. Great.
The dynamic island, cool idea, strange name. Ok. Great.
A better camera. OMG, shocker, didn't see that coming. Not!

Let's talk about what we really want. We use our phones a lot. Most of us, and I mean most of us are NOT professional photographers and moviemakers. Apple, if that is truly your market, make a $2000+ Ultra (to borrow some Mac Studio and Watch naming) iPhone that is bigger, thicker, and way way way way more Camera than phone/internet/app device.

For the REST OF US, we want our phone to do what:
Text / Mail / Browse / Call
Take really good pictures but we're not protographers.
And we want to run all the apps we run.

FOR THAT WE NEED:
A good chip.
A great battery.
Good cameras.

And wait for it.... The iPhone to actually be better at calls. We got 5G with the 12. But it seems that phone call and cellular connectivity are still the biggest issues that plague the phone. Apple, how about concentrating a bit more of your innovation in the two biggest key areas of what a smartphone should actually be good at.

And maybe cooling, cause this thing gets so hot so easy when I use it.

I didn't hear anything today addressing those areas.

(apparently there is no iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max prefix).
 
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If you were to make a survey of random people on the street, I’d say most people would vote for “better camera”, “better battery”, “faster phone”. I think very very few would vote for “better cellular connection” and “make it less hot”.

This looks like your personal requests, sadly I don’t think they’re very common.
 
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Gonna have to agree with the two previous posts. It's pretty rare that I actually have to make a call these days and when I do, it works perfectly fine.
 
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It’s not like it’s in the name. Phone is part of iPhone. The fact that you don’t use your phone as a phone, well then maybe you don’t actually need a phone. Hmm. You can’t make this stuff up.

However, cellular connectivity isn’t just about calls, I use my phone a ton for apps, texting, browsing, etc. when I am not on wifi, so yes, improving how the phone connects to the carrier is important. And just because you don’t make calls, I bet you do use your phone a lot on a cellular network. That connection is a relationship between the network and the hardware. It is not just which carrier you have, but the innovation in the device that interacts with that carrier.
 
I love the use of 'us' and 'we' in the OP. Are you actually trying to speak on behalf of others? So it doesn't meet your needs....don't buy it. Hmm. You can't make this stuff up.

I have zero issues with connectivity. Not sure why you (OP) do.

On average, 1.72 Trillion photos are taken per year with 92.5% taken on a smartphone. Do you really think only professional photographers care about the cameras? Obviously for most people their phone IS their camera. Hence the reason Apple, Samsung, Google, or any other phone maker would focus on it.

The Pro is said to get 20 hours of streamed video and the Pro Max 25 hours. What more do you want?

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ARizz44 said:
I love the use of 'us' and 'we' in the OP. Are you actually trying to speak on behalf of others? So it doesn't meet your needs....don't buy it. Hmm. You can't make this stuff up.

I have zero issues with connectivity. Not sure why you (OP) do.

On average, 1.72 Trillion photos are taken per year with 92.5% taken on a smartphone. Do you really think only professional photographers care about the cameras? Obviously for most people their phone IS their camera. Hence the reason Apple, Samsung, Google, or any other phone maker would focus on it.

The Pro is said to get 20 hours of streamed video and the Pro Max 25 hours. What more do you want?

photutorial.com

Photo Statistics: How Many Photos are Taken Every Day?

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It's unbelievable how easily you missed the point. They spend a lot of time talking to pro-photographers and pro-video makers in the keynote, discussing aspects of the phone's camera capability that does not really apply to the 1.591 trillion photos taken every year. No one said don't innovate the camera, just don't make it all about the camera, which it seems is so much of the keynote every year for the iPhone. Sorry but for the amount of time they spend on the camera, one generation iPhone to the next did not get that much better than the prior year. And yet it went on for quite a while.

I'm sorry that most of the "us" out there are less useful to the world than the phones they buy, and that Apple is simply capitalizing on them, but if they did care about the device being a truly exceptional smartphone, there are some other aspects they could focus on. And yes, the phone will do 20 or 25 hours of streamed video, you just won't be able to hold it it will be so hot. The power they pack in has not been properly addressed for cooling. There were actually rumors of thermal features that did not get announced today.

You don't want me to speak for you. Done.
 
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ARizz44 said:
Exactly. I must have a fluke iPhone because I don't have cellular issues and my phone doesn't 'burn my hand' lol. But what do I know, I missed the entire point 🤷‍♂️
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Perhaps the OP has a defective iPhone? Mine gets warm while charging or heavy use but never what I would call hot. If it’s in direct sunlight it can absorb heat from the sun but that’s not because of the phone. I had cellular issues when I was with T-Mobile but now that I’m with Verizon no issues. Of course it depends on your area but from my understanding in the USA at least if you want good network coverage you have to go with either AT&T or Verizon. One of those two is usually better in your area. T-Mobile is cheaper but not quite as good. I’ve also had good luck with MVNO brands based on Verizon. Straight Talk is popular here and you can choose to be on the Verizon network. The only downside is they offer no Apple Watch support that I’m aware of and if you add a tablet to your plan it’s almost as expensive as a regular carrier. They work best if you need just one line
 
What you are really asking for is for new use cases for the phone. IMO the biggest leap for iPhones in recent memory happened around the 6/6s/7 era

- 4G and 5G made phones much faster
- This made photo heavy and navigation apps more tenable (instagram, Uber, Tinder, etc)
- Cameras made a big leap

My 6S allowed me to call Ubers globally, set up dates with women globally, take pictures I still cherish today, read docs / web pages on a large screen, etc. That wasn’t available on phones a few years prior. Phones since haven’t really added new features
 
roland.g said:
Apple, how about concentrating a bit more of your innovation in the two biggest key areas of what a smartphone should actually be good at.
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Do we know for a fact that they aren't working on it? They have limited time during these keynotes. Dedicating time to talk about 5g voice and connectivity probably won't move the needle for many. Hopefully though they do continue to focus on antenna design (antenna gate was fun!) and work with the carriers to ensure at least decent enough coverage. If you're struggling perhaps as others mentioned it's worth looking at other providers in your area to see if there'd be an improvement.
 
After years on AT&T I’ve been on Verizon for a while now. Sometimes it is good. Other times not. Major metropolitan area. I just think it is still an area for improvement.

And it is not just calls. I use a lot of internet and other apps that use connectivity. And I use my phone more than I would a computer or tablet. It is my computer. So I tax the hell out of it. And it gets quite warm. I read they might introduce vapor chamber cooling but then they didn’t. All that power and battery life, I personally think it is a place they can improve.
 
No connectivity issues at all here - 5G, 800mbps download, calling is excellent. Connectivity problems are a carrier issue, not the phones.
 
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