Apple Maps: where does it pull construction/road hazard/accident info from?

[dictoresno]

I can usually count on Apple maps for my daily navigation needs. However I find myself having to go to Waze or Google maps is I need precise info regarding traffic issues. Waze usually has way to much info like potholes and other miscellaneous notifications, seems like there's one every mile. Google maps I understand pulls data from Waze and is usually on point showing an accident ahead or construction details.

Apple maps rarely shows the little yellow diamond construction sign indicating road work. However I did notice today it did and for once it was accurate. There was a crew working right where the hazard notification was.

My question is where and how does apple get this info from and how often. I really wish it was as accurate as at least Google maps or would let us submit accident or construction info.

 

[ANTAWNM26]

I can usually count on Apple maps for my daily navigation needs. However I find myself having to go to Waze or Google maps is I need precise info regarding traffic issues. Waze usually has way to much info like potholes and other miscellaneous notifications, seems like there's one every mile. Google maps I understand pulls data from Waze and is usually on point showing an accident ahead or construction details.

Apple maps rarely shows the little yellow diamond construction sign indicating road work. However I did notice today it did and for once it was accurate. There was a crew working right where the hazard notification was.

My question is where and how does apple get this info from and how often. I really wish it was as accurate as at least Google maps or would let us submit accident or construction info.

Not sure but google is way ahead in the maps department it would be a difficult task for Apple maps to catch google maps

 

[redman042]

Waze is the only app that allows drivers to report road issues in real-time. Google does partially utilize this info in their traffic reporting, along with aggregated vehicle speed information from devices running the software and reports from the state transportation agency including loop detectors and cameras in the roadways. Apple Maps would get all the same information except for user reporting, which Maps doesn’t have. The other part of the equation is the algorithms used by each company to crunch that data. Google is further ahead on that, but Apple Maps is pretty good.

I’m mostly happy with Apple Maps now, but when I have somewhere I need to be at a particular time, especially if it’s a long drive, I tend to run multiple navigation apps just to be sure, usually Apple Maps in the foreground and Google in the background with occasional cross checks.

 

[dictoresno]

Waze is the only app that allows drivers to report road issues in real-time. Google does partially utilize this info in their traffic reporting, along with aggregated vehicle speed information from devices running the software and reports from the state transportation agency including loop detectors and cameras in the roadways. Apple Maps would get all the same information except for user reporting, which Maps doesn’t have. The other part of the equation is the algorithms used by each company to crunch that data. Google is further ahead on that, but Apple Maps is pretty good.

I’m mostly happy with Apple Maps now, but when I have somewhere I need to be at a particular time, especially if it’s a long drive, I tend to run multiple navigation apps just to be sure, usually Apple Maps in the foreground and Google in the background with occasional cross checks.

I did that on a long drive from NJ to New Hampshire. Had not running concurrently to make sure my drive was accurate

 

[Superrjamz54]

Not sure but google is way ahead in the maps department it would be a difficult task for Apple maps to catch google maps

Apple gets their data from TomTom which has been doing it for a lot longer then Google.

 

[cynics]

Apple gets their traffic information from TomTom HD traffic and anonymous data collection from iPhones.
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Not sure but google is way ahead in the maps department it would be a difficult task for Apple maps to catch google maps

Google has a very proactive approach to map data vs Apple. Google also has a larger vested interest in maps (accurate business locations). However fault can be found in both.

Many people swear by Waze (acquired by Google) however Waze was (is?) a source of Apple map data.

https://gspe21-ssl.ls.apple.com/html/attribution-94.html

 

[redman042]

Apple gets their data from TomTom which has been doing it for a lot longer then Google.

I’m pretty sure Google is way ahead of TomTom despite that. I’d expect Google invested more heavily and has way better talent. Certainly I see many more people using Google Maps than TomTom these days.

Apple gets their traffic information from TomTom HD traffic and anonymous data collection from iPhones.
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Google has a very proactive approach to map data vs Apple. Google also has a larger vested interest in maps (accurate business locations). However fault can be found in both.

Many people swear by Waze (acquired by Google) however Waze was (is?) a source of Apple map data.

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https://gspe21-ssl.ls.apple.com/html/attribution-94.html

I don’t think they get live traffic or incident data from them, but perhaps Maps of some localities.

 

[cynics]

I’m pretty sure Google is way ahead of TomTom despite that. I’d expect Google invested more heavily and has way better talent. Certainly I see many more people using Google Maps than TomTom these days.



I don’t think they get live traffic or incident data from them, but perhaps Maps of some localities.

From Waze? Ya just map data like mentioned.

 

[PeLaNo]

Not completely about this thread but why there are some places that don’t have in Apple maps but they’re there in service like Foursquare ?
It’s should appear in Apple maps too right ? Since Apple also use information from Foursqare.

 

[Shirasaki]

Not completely about this thread but why there are some places that don’t have in Apple maps but they’re there in service like Foursquare ?
It’s should appear in Apple maps too right ? Since Apple also use information from Foursqare.

Maybe they don’t use enough. Maybe what they use does not include missing data.

 

[dictoresno]

On a side note I reported some corrections to Apple through the maps app. The problems were corrected within like 2-3 days and I was notified of the changes. I was actually shocked how fast they made the changes

 

[Shirasaki]

On a side note I reported some corrections to Apple through the maps app. The problems were corrected within like 2-3 days and I was notified of the changes. I was actually shocked how fast they made the changes

In the meantime google takes less than an hour to apply the change.

 

[Gav2k]

https://gspe21-ssl.ls.apple.com/html/attribution-94.html

I can usually count on Apple maps for my daily navigation needs. However I find myself having to go to Waze or Google maps is I need precise info regarding traffic issues. Waze usually has way to much info like potholes and other miscellaneous notifications, seems like there's one every mile. Google maps I understand pulls data from Waze and is usually on point showing an accident ahead or construction details.

Apple maps rarely shows the little yellow diamond construction sign indicating road work. However I did notice today it did and for once it was accurate. There was a crew working right where the hazard notification was.

My question is where and how does apple get this info from and how often. I really wish it was as accurate as at least Google maps or would let us submit accident or construction info.

 

[cynics]

In the meantime google takes less than an hour to apply the change.

Hit or miss with both services.

I and at least 8 other people have been reporting a section of neighborhood to google for years (sometimes weekly) that they don’t have on their map.

Getting delivery food can be a nightmare if the driver/restaurant uses Google. Some places won’t even try and just tell us they can’t deliver there.

I linked images of Apple and Google comparison here...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-maps-suck.2102535/#post-25752241

Ironically google street view has the road leading in there. Even stranger is Googles satellite view is more out of date than Apples.

The problem is how prelevant google maps are. We often have to tell people to use Apple maps (just in case). If they are and Android user we give the closet address and just describe how to get there lol.

Point is they can both be equally terrible or equally responsive. If near a dozen people constantly reporting the issue to Google and them even driving their own vehicle that’s highly modified for mapping and imagery doesn’t get them to fix it than it falls in the terrible qos range.

 

[Superrjamz54]

I’m pretty sure Google is way ahead of TomTom despite that. I’d expect Google invested more heavily and has way better talent. Certainly I see many more people using Google Maps than TomTom these days.



I don’t think they get live traffic or incident data from them, but perhaps Maps of some localities.

Google sucks **** outside of cities. Go to the country where none of their cars have ever been and their adrresss are off by miles assuming the address even shows up. Google is great in the cities where they have access to the way points and data from Waze. TomTom refuses to share traffic data with Apple,since if they did that, they would no longer have a business model. You will never see somebody use TomTom or Garmin for that matter. The traffic data is the only thing they have over a phone. TomTom ingested way more money then Google it shows outside of cities. Big time difference. The only reason Apple created their own map program was because Google refused to include turn by:turn directions.
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I’m pretty sure Google is way ahead of TomTom despite that. I’d expect Google invested more heavily and has way better talent. Certainly I see many more people using Google Maps than TomTom these days.



I don’t think they get live traffic or incident data from them, but perhaps Maps of some localities.

Apple gets all of their maps from TomTom including their much more accurate maps of rural areas. TomTom refuses to share traffic cause if they did, nobody would actually buy a TomTom device.

 

[PeLaNo]

On a side note I reported some corrections to Apple through the maps app. The problems were corrected within like 2-3 days and I was notified of the changes. I was actually shocked how fast they made the changes

I’m think they work faster than they used to be too. Sometimes it took just a day.

 

[macfacts]

... The only reason Apple created their own map program was because Google refused to include turn by:turn directions.

That is half the story.

It's called negotiation and it was Apple that wouldn't play nice. Apple wanted turn by turn feature for free. Google wanted more google apps pre-installed in iOS in exchange for the turn by turn feature.

 

[AnthonyG6]

Apple gets their data from TomTom which has been doing it for a lot longer then Google.

I thought Apple gets it data from Garmin or has that changed?

 

[Arni99]

I thought Apple gets it data from Garmin or has that changed?

TomTom North America HD Traffic: Portions of the data have been provided by Clear Channel Broadcasting © 2015. Clear Channel Broadcasting, Inc. All rights reserved.

Can be found inside the Apple maps app.

 

[GIZBUG]

So the consensus is Waze for long drives, google maps for city’s , avoid Apple maps?

 

[one more]

So the consensus is Waze for long drives, google maps for city’s , avoid Apple maps?

Pretty much so. Waze, in my experience, has a really accurate road info and a user ability to report stuff on the go is super helpful. Yet it will also tend to route you in a zig-zag pattern to save a minute of a 30 min drive. Google has a slightly different UI, so it’s a question of taste. Less zig-zags too. Apple Maps UI looks good and routes you in the most stress-free way, but its road layout accuracy & POIs are still way behind both Waze & Google.

 

[cynics]

So the consensus is Waze for long drives, google maps for city’s , avoid Apple maps?

That is the general concensus. I use Apple maps 99% of the time but I keep google maps on standby. Options are good!