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HerbertDerb

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Jan 10, 2017
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First the basics why i'm asking this question:
So, i have pretty high-end setup regarding headphones. (HDV820 and HD800S combo).
Getting new iPad Pro 2021 12.9 soon so i can definitely plug it into that. (Don't know the limitations of iPadOS, can this be done?)
I also have dedicated Intel i5 Nuc running Windows 10 that i (was planning) to install audirvana and use that to feed my DAC. The audirvana App vas remotely controlled from my ipad.


My question:
Now that Apple has released lossless Apple Music. Can Apple Music be streamed with lossless quality someway to external DAC using Win10?
Or do i have to purchase Mac Mini or just plug it into my ipad? (None of these options are ideal. I prefer Win10 over Mac)

Thanks!
 
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AllanMarcus

macrumors member
Jan 2, 2004
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From apples music faq
How can I listen to lossless audio?
You can listen to lossless audio using the latest Apple Music app on an iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple TV.

note, no windows :-(
 

TR73

macrumors newbie
Jan 6, 2020
13
30
Finland
It's disappointing that you can't even use iTunes on Windows to stream Apple Music Lossless, even though I believe iTunes does support the codec itself (for example when importing a CD).
 

kb923689

macrumors regular
Oct 31, 2019
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From apples music faq
How can I listen to lossless audio?
You can listen to lossless audio using the latest Apple Music app on an iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple TV.

note, no windows :-(
I was so excited for a new Music app on Windows 10. Guess not gonna happen. Gonna keep streaming AAC on my iPhone and my local lossless library with the outdated iTunes. :rolleyes:
 

krebphone

macrumors regular
Mar 8, 2019
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Apple makes money off hardware, are you that surprised they don't care about windows? You're lucky you get anything.
 

MattG

macrumors 68040
May 27, 2003
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568
Asheville, NC
I don't understand how Apple can sell hardware like iPhones/iPads and services like Apple Music, claim them to be "Windows Compatible" and then provide such a shoddy experience.

iTunes for Windows has been a MESS for a long time, let alone the fact it doesn't support Lossless yet. For example this stupid bug has been an issue for me for years and they still haven't fixed it. Also I've had several Windows computers in my house over the past few years (GOOD ones with high-end hardware) and they've been the ONLY devices that won't reliably stream music to AirPlay devices in my house via iTunes.

I know Apple's priority is their own hardware but would it really kill them to throw a little bit of that $2T at fixing the Windows version of their software?
 
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keeper

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Apr 23, 2008
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Headphones wise I’m using a Apple camera adapter into a Audioquest Colbalt for connecting to my iPhone and iPad.

For external dac you could use the iPad and camera adapter into the usb input into the dac.
 

Bsj80

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2014
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Just installed an update on the MS store... still no lossless!! Currently I am using Bluestacks to get the Android app which works and it faster than using the Win10 version.. Only downside is the play/pause and skip hotkeys on my laptop do not work and the app is built for touch.
 

Gamgee

macrumors newbie
Aug 11, 2021
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First the basics why i'm asking this question:
So, i have pretty high-end setup regarding headphones. (HDV820 and HD800S combo).
Getting new iPad Pro 2021 12.9 soon so i can definitely plug it into that. (Don't know the limitations of iPadOS, can this be done?)
I also have dedicated Intel i5 Nuc running Windows 10 that i (was planning) to install audirvana and use that to feed my DAC. The audirvana App vas remotely controlled from my ipad.


My question:
Now that Apple has released lossless Apple Music. Can Apple Music be streamed with lossless quality someway to external DAC using Win10?
Or do i have to purchase Mac Mini or just plug it into my ipad? (None of these options are ideal. I prefer Win10 over Mac)

Thanks!
I have done a bit of research on this. The only way I know how to get Apple Lossless on a DAC while NOT using Apple hardware is to use the Android Apple Music app and use an OTC adapter to connect to a USB cable. The only problem is that I have no way of confirming that the output is truly lossless (that I know of anyway).
 

Reckls

macrumors newbie
Aug 20, 2021
1
0
New Delhi, India
Just installed an update on the MS store... still no lossless!! Currently I am using Bluestacks to get the Android app which works and it faster than using the Win10 version.. Only downside is the play/pause and skip hotkeys on my laptop do not work and the app is built for touch.
What quality does the Bluestacks output at? I thought emulators throttle the quality. I too use it and find it slightly better, but not sure it is "true" lossless.
 

-BigMac-

macrumors 68020
Apr 15, 2011
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Melbourne, Australia
Apple makes money off hardware, are you that surprised they don't care about windows? You're lucky you get anything.
If they removed iTunes on Windows there would be grounds for refunds of corresponding purchases.

For example if they removed iTunes on Windows, and you used it to sync music to your iPhone - they are essentially disabling you from accessing features you paid for.

Under Australian Consumer Laws, you would be eligible for refunds.
They won't do that.
 

dmitrika

macrumors newbie
Dec 14, 2021
1
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First the basics why i'm asking this question:
So, i have pretty high-end setup regarding headphones. (HDV820 and HD800S combo).
Getting new iPad Pro 2021 12.9 soon so i can definitely plug it into that. (Don't know the limitations of iPadOS, can this be done?)
I also have dedicated Intel i5 Nuc running Windows 10 that i (was planning) to install audirvana and use that to feed my DAC. The audirvana App vas remotely controlled from my ipad.


My question:
Now that Apple has released lossless Apple Music. Can Apple Music be streamed with lossless quality someway to external DAC using Win10?
Or do i have to purchase Mac Mini or just plug it into my ipad? (None of these options are ideal. I prefer Win10 over Mac)

Thanks!
Good afternoon, have you found a solution to your problem? If not, I can recommend using the web version of Apple Music. My USB digital audio converter plays lossless audio through the browser. Try it, you can listen to Apple Music on Windows 10 too!
 

-BigMac-

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Apr 15, 2011
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Melbourne, Australia
Good afternoon, have you found a solution to your problem? If not, I can recommend using the web version of Apple Music. My USB digital audio converter plays lossless audio through the browser. Try it, you can listen to Apple Music on Windows 10 too!
Web version of Apple Music doesnt let you see/control what quality of audio you are playing.

I have had a pretty bad time with the web browser..

Not to mention it doesnt have any native app features like iTunes on Mac has :(
 

TR73

macrumors newbie
Jan 6, 2020
13
30
Finland
Hurray! Apple Music Preview for Windows is now available. It allows for lossless playback.

I had my Windows configured for a European region (Finland). I had to switch to the US region to be able to download the preview. (In Settings - Time & language - Country or region)


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-BigMac-

macrumors 68020
Apr 15, 2011
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Melbourne, Australia
Hurray! Apple Music Preview for Windows is now available. It allows for lossless playback.

I had my Windows configured for a European region (Finland). I had to switch to the US region to be able to download the preview. (In Settings - Time & language - Country or region)


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LOL deadset... I sold my Windows PC like 3 hours ago.
On a Mac Studio now haha

I waited 10 fkn years!!!!!!!!!!! the day of... wow
 
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