Apple remotely deletes Videos app

[tywebb13]

What’s the name of video app??

It's just called Videos.

It's apple's own app which came on older ios versions - or in some countries with ios 11 where the TV app hasn't been released yet.

Actually apple have put the videos app back on their app store now but now it has a new message preventing you from reinstalling it if you already have the TV app: "This app requires specific features not available on this device".

 

[andyp350]

If your going to get this upset about something so minor I hope you read every terms and conditions document of every software license agreement and cloud internet service you’ve ever signed up to with a fine tooth combe. You don’t really think you own any of the software on your iPhone do you?

 

[newellj]

The device is MINE not apple's!

They are pretending that they still own it even after I purchased it.

Maybe one day I'll go to the apple park with lots of trucks and empty it. Pretending it's mine.

No? Can't do that? Is that illegal? Would I end up in jail if I try?

Then why aren't apple in jail when they remotely delete stuff from my device THAT I OWN AND APPLE DON'T?

The software, however, including the OS, are NOT yours, they belong to Apple. So, your assumptions here are simply wrong.

 

[stulaw11]

If your going to get this upset about something so minor I hope you read every terms and conditions document of every software license agreement and cloud internet service you’ve ever signed up to.

Agree, realize that TOS are NOT written to protect the consumer but rather the company. Cloud services disclaim and and all liability if every one of your important docs are "accidentally" deleted from their servers, someone hacks in, etc. Basically you are SOL.

 

[bmac89]

If you change iTunes stores it automatically changes between video app and tv app depending on the country you select. For example in Australia it is still videos app but if you change to USA store it will automatically change to tv app. Probably both are installed and it selects the correct one but I don’t know.

 

[KGB7]

I don’t see the app in my App Store.

 

[andyp350]

So can apple delete a document remotely too?

Can they claim apple own the document because it was created on an apple device - and hence have a right to delete it?

I doubt that will stand up in court, regardless of licence agreements. Licence agreements cannot override the law of the land. Most such laws say you own the document, not apple.

This isn’t comparable because a document would be something you created. The videos app is software created and licensed for you to use on your iPhone by Apple. You don’t own it like you would a digital document that you created yourself.

 

[KGB7]

Why not use iMovie app instead??
[doublepost=1506170709][/doublepost]Looks like apple was planing to retire the app for a while.

9to5mac.com/2016/11/14/rip-videos-tv-app-ios-10-beta-3/amp/

 

[tywebb13]

When you go to redownload it is replacing the new app with the old as the old does not exist in your region anymore. If you took no action Videos would stay on your device, meaning no one is deleting anything remotely.

That's not quite what happened.

Installing ios 11 replaced the Videos app with the TV app.

But then reinstalling the Videos app allowed me to have both apps.

Then mysteriously a few days later the videos app disappeared - without me doing anything except connect to internet.

Now I do actually have some evidence. I have it also on an ipod with no internet connection and I made a photo of both apps together on the same device:

Scared to connect it yet to the net in case the Videos app gets deleted again.

 

[F1Mac]

Yeah. Maybe it was actually the TV app which deleted the Videos app.

You can actually delete the TV app if you want. Maybe I'll do that and try to get the Videos app back somehow and see if it gets deleted again.

TV does actualy everything Videos did. So I still don't see why one would want Videos instead of TV in iOS 11. All my movies are here (both purchased and ripped), so smooth sailing

 

[andyp350]

That's not quite what happened.

Installing ios 11 replaced the Videos app with the TV app.

But then reinstalling the Videos app allowed me to have both apps.

Then mysteriously a few days later the videos app disappeared - without me doing anything except connect to internet.

Now I do actually have some evidence. I have it also on an ipod with no internet connection and I made a photo of both apps together on the same device:

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Scared to connect it yet to the net in case the Videos app gets deleted again.

Apologies if this is a stupid question. But if the TV app is replacing the Videos app, and Apple are planning to retire the Videos app in countries where the TV app is now live. Why don’t you just start using the TV app instead? It seems like a really simple solution to me.

 

[danny842003]

Well when I updated to ios 11 the Videos app was replaced with the TV app.

At the time the Videos app was still available on the app store too so I just reinstalled it. That was several days ago.

But today apple have removed the Videos app from the app store - but also a second time from my device - which I did not give them permission to do.

I knew it would get replaced when I updated to ios 11. But I didn't expect the Videos app to disappear from my device a second time after getting it back.

Why do you keep saying that when we all know you did. Either knowingly or not, you did.

 

[tywebb13]

Apologies if this is a stupid question. But if the TV app is replacing the Videos app, and Apple are planning to retire the Videos app in countries where the TV app is now live. Why don’t you just start using the TV app instead? It seems like a really simple solution to me.

Tried that too. But prefer the old Videos app. It is much simpler and set out better. That's why I got the Videos app back in the first place.

You might be right eventually I may have to start getting used to the TV app. But I still think the Videos app was much easier to use.

 

[GGJstudios]

I find it very worrisome that apple can remotely delete stuff from my device without warning and without permission.

https://ssl.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/ios51.pdf

IMPORTANT: BY USING YOUR iPHONE, iPAD or iPOD TOUCH (“iOS DEVICE”), YOU ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE FOLLOWING APPLE AND THIRD PARTY TERMS:

1. APPLE iOS SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT
   

1. General.

(a) The software (including Boot ROM code and other embedded software), documentation, interfaces, content, fonts and any data that came with your iOS Device ("Original iOS Software"), as may be updated or replaced by feature enhancements, software updates or system restore software provided by Apple

(b) Apple, at its discretion, may make available future iOS Software Updates for your iOS Device. The iOS Software Updates, if any, may not necessarily include all existing software features or new features that Apple releases for newer or other models of iOS Devices.

 

[Synergie]

I can confirm that the Videos app no longer worked! I had deleted the TV app and redownloaded Videos on day 1 of iOS 11. I tried to rent a movie and it told me I needed the TV app. So while yes you could download Videos a couple days ago, it was no good because you couldn’t rent or buy anything anyway.

 

[tywebb13]

I can confirm that the Videos app no longer worked! I had deleted the TV app and redownloaded Videos on day 1 of iOS 11. I tried to rent a movie and it told me I needed the TV app. So while yes you could download Videos a couple days ago, it was no good because you couldn’t rent or buy anything anyway.

This might actually be the reason apple want to remove it from devices in countries where the TV app is released.

The Videos app was still OK for other videos though (i.e., ones not purchased). I preferred the Videos app because it was easier to use. That's why I reinstalled it in the first place.