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estabya

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We have two 2nd gens and two 3rd gens and with general streaming and some basic gaming I have not noticed any difference between the devices.
 
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Benz63amg

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We have two 2nd gens and two 3rd gens and with general streaming and some basic gaming I have not noticed any difference between the devices.
That’s what I figured. I’ll just keep the second gen one that I have until a new 4th gen one is released, thank you.
 

estabya

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The new one does have add HDR10+ support and a Thread radio in the 128Gb model. So if you have a higher end TV from Samsung or another brand that doesn’t do Dolby Vision, or if you have a lot of newer smart home accessories, it might be worth it to you.
 
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Benz63amg

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The new one does have add HDR10+ support and a Thread radio in the 128Gb model. So if you have a higher end TV from Samsung or another brand that doesn’t do Dolby Vision, or if you have a lot of newer smart home accessories, it might be worth it to you.
I have an LG OLED C3 which has both hdr and Dolby vision. What benefit would HDR10+ give me?
 

estabya

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I have an LG OLED C3 which has both hdr and Dolby vision. What benefit would HDR10+ give me?

HDR10+ is similar to Dolby Vision in that they both provide a superior HDR viewing experience because of the additional video data that the tv gets. LG TVs do not support HDR10+, but Dolby Vision is the superior technology in my (admittedly fairly amateur) opinion. I have several nice TVs and the ones that support DV and HDR10+, I prefer the tone mapping and colors of the DV picture every time.
 

-Gonzo-

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I have an LG OLED C3 which has both hdr and Dolby vision. What benefit would HDR10+ give me?
Absolutely nothing as your TV doesn’t support HDR10+, you’ll just get HDR10 as you do now for that specific content that doesn’t provide Dolby Vision.

Myself I’ve got a TV that supports both DV and HDR10+ so get the benefit from Prime Video as for the most part they still favour HDR10+, also quite a lot of my iTunes/atv movie library is available in HDR10+ which are mostly movies from 20th Century ie Die Hard & X-Men franchises to name a couple.
 

shakopeemn

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I have an LG OLED C3 which has both hdr and Dolby vision. What benefit would HDR10+ give me?

HDR10+ only advantage is that it gives the Samsung brand high contrast. Samsung refuses to pay for Dolby Vision technology licensing and Samsung settled with HDR10+.

In the digital high contrast world HDR is basic (like your LG OLED), followed by HDR10+, and Dolby Vision.

As a side note, I have an LG OLED which mostly does ATV. The OLED has such a WOW factor, that I refuse to pay Netflix for their 4k DolbyVision. The picture is still outstanding on most streaming services!

Best to ya.
 

-Gonzo-

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HDR10+ only advantage is that it gives the Samsung brand high contrast. Samsung refuses to pay for Dolby Vision technology licensing and Samsung settled with HDR10+.
It somewhat baffles me slightly when most talk about HDR10+ it’s only ever Samsung that gets a mention as being any benefit for.
Granted it’s definitely a benefit for Samsung owners but there’s also a benefit to those who own other brands that also support HDR10+.
Yeah for the most part Dolby Vision is the more dominant but there’s still a hell of a lot of HDR10+ only content available that Dolby Vision only TVs cannot take advantage of.
 

dtancu

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Except ATV 4K 3rd gen plays extremely poorly with Samsung TVs on HDR10+ detection. I own a S95C OLED and HDR is not detected by ATV 3rd Gen as HDR10+. It's a well known bug from Apple's side and not fixed until now.
So what you get is SDR-like performance on ATV home screens.
 

shakopeemn

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Except ATV 4K 3rd gen plays extremely poorly with Samsung TVs on HDR10+ detection. I own a S95C OLED and HDR is not detected by ATV 3rd Gen as HDR10+. It's a well known bug from Apple's side and not fixed until now.
So what you get is SDR-like performance on ATV home screens.

Oh my. The OLED models by Samsung also don't support Dolby Vision?

Not all content is in HDR10+, even though there is a Dolby Vision version. I find that the HDR10+ works for my Samsung QN90A. That said, the Samsung HDR10+ is hit or miss. It's great sometimes and too soft other times. I tend to keep the dynamic off as the picture quality is more consistent (and still looks great).
 

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Except ATV 4K 3rd gen plays extremely poorly with Samsung TVs on HDR10+ detection. I own a S95C OLED and HDR is not detected by ATV 3rd Gen as HDR10+. It's a well known bug from Apple's side and not fixed until now.
So what you get is SDR-like performance on ATV home screens.
As mentioned not all content is available in HDR10+ so I guess that all depends on which particular content you’re expecting to be HDR10+ and where from?
Any particular examples of what you think should be HDR10+ but isn’t showing as such on your Samsung?
 
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