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mib01

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I'm looking to buy an Apple TV 4K gen3, I saw that 1440p resolution is available in the settings, and I have a 16:9 monitor with this resolution. My question is, despite the support in 1080p and 4K TV resolutions in streaming applications, will these 1440p make any difference? Or will this resolution only meet the Apple TV interface and its native apps?

I currently use the Mac with the monitor and get 1440p on YouTube, and MKV 4k format videos run with good sharpness even though they don't have native support. The intention of using Apple TV is convenience with the control, and apps that only run on tvOS
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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If I'm understanding the question correctly, tvOS will scale up 1080p resolution to 1440p and scale down 4K resolution to 1440p resolution on that monitor... the same as it would if you tried to watch as little as SD resolution. Anything scaled down from higher resolution will look as sharp and good as it can look at 1440p. Anything scaled up from lower resolution will have the system best guessing new pixels to fill in the additional visual data. Generally, this looks pretty good too, even from much lower than 1080p resolution such as DVD, SD or even VHS quality.

As source resolution/quality falls, more pixels have to be "guessed" to fill in for a higher resolution screen. While the guessing algorithms can be good, you will definitely notice that stuff scaled down from 4K will look best on a 1440p monitor and progressively worse as you scale up from lower and lower original sources.
 
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mib01

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Does Apple TV connect perfectly to Bluetooth audio device? I was thinking of buying a Homepod mini to use but it would be limited only to AirPlay, and two to form the stereo pair at the moment it costs a lot in my region.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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Does this 1440p monitor have a 3.5mm or other audio out jack. I'd suggest hooking any speaker to that instead of using wireless. You don't even have to think computer speakers. For example, I lean on a sound bar with a wireless link to a subwoofer for deep bass. Most people don't seem to think about such an option but it works great and sounds good in my computing space.

BUT, if you must, AppleTV will connect just fine to HPs wirelessly. Note that AppleTV is capable of exporting full surround sound but HPs (big or small) are- at best- limited to only stereo. If you might want to game or similar and/or watch some surround sound movies on this monitor, there are "pass through" setups or soundbars through which you could hook AppleTV HDMI to HDMI in and then HDMI out from soundbar to 1440p monitor. The soundbar or system would then scalp off the audio responsibilities and the monitor would receive only the video portion.
 
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mib01

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Does this 1440p monitor have a 3.5mm or other audio out jack. I'd suggest hooking any speaker to that instead of using wireless. You don't even have to think computer speakers. For example, I lean on a sound bar with a wireless link to a subwoofer for deep bass. Most people don't seem to think about such an option but it works great and sounds good in my computing space.

BUT, if you must, AppleTV will connect just fine to HPs wirelessly. Note that AppleTV is capable of exporting full surround sound but HPs (big or small) are- at best- limited to only stereo. If you might want to game or similar and/or watch some surround sound movies on this monitor, there are "pass through" setups or soundbars through which you could hook AppleTV HDMI to HDMI in and then HDMI out from soundbar to 1440p monitor. The soundbar or system would then scalp off the audio responsibilities and the monitor would receive only the video portion.
Yes, the Dell UP2716D monitor has P2 output is an option. But I have two stereo audio monitor boxes that in addition to Bluetooth have an RCA input. I have the option of P2 for RCA or use Apple TV directly via Bluetooth.

Regarding the soundbar I am aware, the Apple TV can be connected to it and use Dolby Digital, DTS and Dolby Atmos if the bar is supported to then connect to the monitor/TV. Now I thought the big Hps supported Dolby Atmos.
 
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HobeSoundDarryl

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They do in name only. Faux ATMOS from only 1 soundbar or 2 speakers is not real ATMOS. It's just marketing terms when ATMOS is claimed but only a speaker or two are involved. There's likely some kind of technical truth in it (so it is not outright false advertising if legally challenged) but anyone's ears would definitely notice the difference between REAL ATMOS and FAUX. For example, you could visit EVERY professional ATMOS cinema in the world and you'll never find ONE with only 1 or 2 speakers down front for the audio. If faux ATMOS sounded as good, why wouldn't all those cinemas choose a much cheaper solution of two HPs or any number of cheap soundbars that also have ATMOS written on the box? (rhetorical: it's NOT real ATMOS).

TRUE ATMOS is going to have speakers all around you and above you too. Ears can tell the difference as readily as when there are sound coming from behind us, we know they are back there. Or we are able to narrow in on where a sound is coming from whether left, right, forward, back above or below. Technical trickery can fake us out to a modest degree but not completely.

Again, visit a professional cinema that is ATMOS before the lights go down and look around. There will be speakers all over the place. That's not solely because it's a bigger space. Real ATMOS requires speakers all around and overhead. Even Dolby Digital Surround needs at least some speakers a little behind the seating position.

That shared though, HPs as stereo/faux ATMOS can sound pretty good. If you haven't got to listen to them, I encourage you to go give them a listen. I mostly chimed in with other ideas because HP budgets can buy a lot of varying kinds of other speakers and some of them can bring things you can't get from HPs... such as a sub and/or actual surround speakers too. HPs also have a lot of "lock in" while other speakers won't be nearly so "locked."
 
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mib01

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The Hp”s is then more of a personal assistant and the possibility of using AirPlay with Apple products. If the user wants to improve the sound of the TV. In more for the price you pay buying two to have a stereo system, it is better to invest in a soundbar with Dolby Atmos and Vision certification and connect the Apple TV to it, example LG S90TY 5.1.3 channels.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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Remember that AppleTV and the presumed Mac you have attached to that monitor BOTH have the HP “smarts” in them, so it is somewhat redundant if Siri smarts is some of the pull towards HPs to be used in such close proximity to an AppleTV and maybe a Mac too. You can use Siri in what you already have right there with any “dumb” (part of ANY) speakers to get the bulk of the benefit in HPs used in that way.
 
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