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JustSomebody12

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Do you think they could enable the new Apple TV 4K to work as a Wifi hotspot/AP?

I think it would be a very useful feature for those who have it linked to the internet thorugh an Ethernet cable.

What do you think?
 

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Do you think they could enable the new Apple TV 4K to work as a Wifi hotspot/AP?

I think it would be a very useful feature for those who have it linked to the internet thorugh an Ethernet cable.

What do you think?
Pretty good idea. I doubt Apple is going to add this functionality though
 
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JustSomebody12

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Pretty good idea. I doubt Apple is going to add this functionality though
May I ask you why?

tvOS is based on iOS, which enables the hotspot also on devices with SoCs as old as an A9 (iPhone 6s).

Both the Apple TV 4K have better SoCs (A10X and A12), and, while the Apple TV HD has a worse SoC (A8), it has the advantage of being cable-powered.

Also, the Apple TV already establish a sort of direct link to Apple devices (to allow remote control).

I think it would be easier than it looks.

Hoping for tvOS 15.
 

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Well, I fully agree. I guess it comes down to marketing decisions. Apple has left the networking market, so I doubt it.

I‘d be happy to be proven wrong
 
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Well, I fully agree. I guess it comes down to marketing decisions. Apple has left the networking market, so I doubt it.

I‘d be happy to be proven wrong
I know both the HomePod Mini and the new Apple TV have Thread, which, as far as I understand, is an IoT-oriented 2.4 GHz WiFi (very simplified), so implementing a WiFi hotspot should be even easier.

I'd be fine even if they limited it to the 4K models, or only to the latest one.

It'd be a valid reason to choose an Apple TV over a Chromecast or a Fire Stick (which Apple hasn't chosen to compete price-wise with).
 

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Could they do it... easily

will they... probably not

Just because they have the necessary hardware, doesn't mean it will work well
The processor would probably be fine, but wifi hardware isn't the same, even antennas are optimized for what they'll do. Having to talk to multiple devices a far distance requires much more transmit power than talking to one device at a far distance. And since the aTV doesn't typically send too much data, it's possible they designed the transmit side of the wifi with less power.

normal aTV placement (behind a TV, or buried in an A/V cabinet) isn't the best for getting a wifi signal out.

Wifi can also affect bluetooth, so if you have the 2.4 wifi "screaming" to all the other devices, you stand a good chance of interfering with the bluetooth connection to the remote.

So it would work fine if you
--don't have too many deivces
--they're all close to the aTV
--the aTV is in a good place for wifi signals.


There are a lot of variables that can easily lead to a less than optimal wifi performance, and it could even impact the basic operation of the device.
Even if it worked well 90% of the time, the other 10% will be "OMG this sucks!" and that's a lot of "bad press" to have out there for no reason.
 
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Could they do it... easily

will they... probably not

Just because they have the necessary hardware, doesn't mean it will work well
The processor would probably be fine, but wifi hardware isn't the same, even antennas are optimized for what they'll do. Having to talk to multiple devices a far distance requires much more transmit power than talking to one device at a far distance. And since the aTV doesn't typically send too much data, it's possible they designed the transmit side of the wifi with less power.

normal aTV placement (behind a TV, or buried in an A/V cabinet) isn't the best for getting a wifi signal out.

Wifi can also affect bluetooth, so if you have the 2.4 wifi "screaming" to all the other devices, you stand a good chance of interfering with the bluetooth connection to the remote.

So it would work fine if you
--don't have too many deivces
--they're all close to the aTV
--the aTV is in a good place for wifi signals.


There are a lot of variables that can easily lead to a less than optimal wifi performance, and it could even impact the basic operation of the device.
Even if it worked well 90% of the time, the other 10% will be "OMG this sucks!" and that's a lot of "bad press" to have out there for no reason.
Still it would be a big advantage for Apple TV over the competitors (which it needs now).
 
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