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Apple TV to be defunct soon as Samsung hints at a MUCH stronger alternative.

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http://www.sgame.jp/news/4/11817

Based on that info, it will likely be a $129 quad core arm a15 CPU and quad power vr 6 series rogue GPU box that fills both the niche that OUYA and Apple TV tried to fill but with far more powerful specs and an actual marketing attempt.

It should support DLNA, Hulu plus, Netflix, Plex, Amazon Player, BBC/ABC Player, YouTube, Steam and XBMC and offer something like Air Video and Air Play for the Samsung Ecosystem.

They can soon integrate that package directly into their smart TVs and tablets and attempt to make Apple TV irrelevant.

The timing is perfect for a beefier Apple TV and OUYA competitor since quad core a15 CPUs and PowerVR 6 series Rogue based GPUS just went into final taping to be ready for mass production in a few months.
 
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I can't tell you how many media streaming solutions have been developed that were supposed to answer everyones needs. All of them have had weaknesses and disappoint. I'll believe it when I see it! Oh...and it's been out a year.
 
mic j said:
I can't tell you how many media streaming solutions have been developed that were supposed to answer everyones needs. All of them have had weaknesses and disappoint. I'll believe it when I see it! Oh...and it's been out a year.
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I have a couple of D-link boxes in my garage :D
 
Sounds the same as iPad killers... The Kindle Fire is going to be the downfall of the iPad! The Nexus 7 is going to destroy the iPad! The Kindle Fire HD will destroy the iPad! The Galaxy Tab will destroy the iPad! :D

Anyway the Apple TV is leaving my house at all. I'm sure this Samsung competitor would be good for anyone in the Samsung environment though.
 
To be honest, I use my apple tv to connect my itunes to my home entertainment - something a samsung box couldn't do.

Although I agree the apple tv could be such a killer accessory if they would just open the damn thing to developpers.
 
Doesn't matter if I cannot mirror my MBA, iPhone and iPad to it as well as connect my Photostream.

The Apple Ecosystem is more than specs.
 
I will stick with my Apple TV, actually plan to get another one for the bedroom. Anyway, why does there always have to be an Apple killer? Nothing has come close to killing it yet. Its ecosystem has no equal.
 
iHailCarlo said:
I will stick with my Apple TV, actually plan to get another one for the bedroom. Anyway, why does there always have to be an Apple killer? Nothing has come close to killing it yet. Its ecosystem has no equal.
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I love my apple tv, but different people have different needs, and I think that someone who doesn't have a mac, or use itunes, and rips all of his dvds/blurays to a hard drive connected to a NAS would not be well served by an apple tv. In that sense, Samsung "could" make a splash with the right execution and marketing.

But I do admit that other companies have a difficult time making things seem as polished as an apple product.
 
Mavimao said:
I love my apple tv, but different people have different needs, and I think that someone who doesn't have a mac, or use itunes, and rips all of his dvds/blurays to a hard drive connected to a NAS would not be well served by an apple tv. In that sense, Samsung "could" make a splash with the right execution and marketing.

But I do admit that other companies have a difficult time making things seem as polished as an apple product.
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I think the problem is that people need the system to be "open" and "flexible" to satisfy both the download/streaming needs and the ability to play local media files. The streaming companies (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc) won't put their apps on an "open" system because they are afraid of pirating. So media streamer developers are caught between the customers needs and the providers restrictions. So you end up a unit that satisfies no one.

Also, there is the issue of cost. Customers want BR menu's, DTS-HD, etc. Those cost money to license. Oh...and then there is a fast responsive interface and great organization of all the media. Oh...and then the unit needs to be wifi and never have a hiccup in playing an HD video file streaming over wifi.

Basically, Apple has provided a decent (not perfect) product by using their download/file management system (iTunes), limiting local video file format (mp4) and audio file format (stereo/DD 5.1).

Good luck to any company that thinks they can do it all.
 
That's like saying the Samsung Galaxy S3 is going to make me what to give up my iPhone.

Apple TV works for me because of iTunes! - I am heavily plugged into iTunes Movies and TV Shows - nothing from Samsung will do that - nor will it do AirPlay
 
They said about Google TV and look how well that played out :rolleyes:

Apple TV, no, but it works great for what i need it for.
 
iPad 2 said:
http://www.sgame.jp/news/4/11817

Based on that info, it will likely be a $129 quad core arm a15 CPU and quad power vr 6 series rogue GPU box that fills both the niche that OUYA and Apple TV tried to fill but with far more powerful specs and an actual marketing attempt.

It should support DLNA, Hulu plus, Netflix, Plex, Amazon Player, BBC/ABC Player, YouTube, Steam and XBMC and offer something like Air Video and Air Play for the Samsung Ecosystem.

They can soon integrate that package directly into their smart TVs and tablets and attempt to make Apple TV irrelevant.

The timing is perfect for a beefier Apple TV and OUYA competitor since quad core a15 CPUs and PowerVR 6 series Rogue based GPUS just went into final taping to be ready for mass production in a few months.
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I'll believe this when I see it.

I bought a Samsung "Smart" TV, and the difference between what it promised and what works (devil in the details) for me is vast. Every model has different compatibility, certain apps they advertise (like MLB TV) I couldn't get because they version for regions and I live in the UK. Even the BBC iPlayer app is crippled by limited choices compared to the web version. I ended up cabling my Macbook Pro to the television most of the time, even recycled the ethernet connection since there wasn't much point.

I found support, firmware updates, etc, more difficult than the Apple ecosystem
 
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My lg TV has Hulu, Netflix, Amazon prime, DNLA, MLB and Plex built in....but until I can AirPlay or stream my iTunes music and content ill be keeping my Apple TV. You do not need over the top CPU/gpu to do what the Apple TV already does well.
 
"For the Samsung ecosystem" is the key phrase that means it won't be an Apple TV alternative for me. I have an iPhone, I have a MacBook Air, so unless Samsung's device can support AirPlay from those devices or support my iTunes library, I'll stick with ATV.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Doesn't matter if I cannot mirror my MBA, iPhone and iPad to it as well as connect my Photostream.

The Apple Ecosystem is more than specs.
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For reals. Does Samsung even have an ecosystem? Does that mean our refrigerator can show up on our TV through this box?

This box sounds like it does nothing new outside of the "Samsung ecosystem" from other products already available. You can watch Amazon video on Roku or an Xbox. Netflix, Hulu Plus and all that other junk are available on about every box made.

What would really get Apple going is an 11.6" MacBook Air that could do 1920x1080 video and push it over AirPlay to an Apple TV. You could sit with that little thing as your uber remote control and stream videos from all sorts of websites AND not have to pay to use Hulu Plus. More expensive than any box, but plenty of people would already have a MacBook Air.
 
Michael CM1 said:
For reals. Does Samsung even have an ecosystem? Does that mean our refrigerator can show up on our TV through this box?

This box sounds like it does nothing new outside of the "Samsung ecosystem" from other products already available. You can watch Amazon video on Roku or an Xbox. Netflix, Hulu Plus and all that other junk are available on about every box made.

What would really get Apple going is an 11.6" MacBook Air that could do 1920x1080 video and push it over AirPlay to an Apple TV. You could sit with that little thing as your uber remote control and stream videos from all sorts of websites AND not have to pay to use Hulu Plus. More expensive than any box, but plenty of people would already have a MacBook Air.
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For real! How does Samsung not have Galaxy support for their refrigerators and washing machines? You are so right...the market is crowded. I'm doubting there's much that would really sway users.
 
Richdmoore said:
I got suckered with a $200 Boxee Box preorder. I am very leery of the promises of Internet TV devices now.
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And I got suckered in to the PopBox. :D

I have to admit that it played local files (including mkv's) wonderfully. Internet content was non-existent and interface was clunky and slow. But it did a decent job of scraping metadata. aTV leaves it in the dust for UI.

I followed BB forums and it seemed to have such great potential and then just fell apart due to the HD audio stutters.
 
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